Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Certainly is mature, they been making the same platform since 2011.

What is funny is DF tested and the Ryzen 7 3700X and Core i7 9700K was a bit ahead in gaming,and they still recommended the Ryzen 7 3700X,even though they have historically preferred Intel.

Is it time now to quote the people (including professional in this industry) who said last week in this thread that the i9 won’t drop in price because « intel has no reason to do so », « they still have the best gaming cpu », « the supply is super tight already they can’t sell more than they produce ».

Apparently Intel is 10000% better than bug ridden AMD,so they should increase the price....wait a second prices are dropping....looks like Intel marketing have zero clue apparently. What are they doing??

 

[~>Dg<~]

why change what works ? intel as much as people hate them just deliver before they dont they always have a processor you drop in works and most likely the fastest at what you do. the 9700k is mainly the fastest gaming cpu. period. blah blah this that it is. there isnt the issues amd has right now the only reason to look at a 3700x over it is the threads. will that matter basically over the period you own the cpu. the thing is looking at history no.

so you buying a 3700x instead of a 9700k based on hope. so you have a slower gaming cpu based on hope. buy on reality. the 9700k is better at gaming will be for probably the whole of its life and it isnt....it will be years down the line so you will still have had better performance for more years of ownership.

 

[Vince]

why change what works ? intel as much as people hate them just deliver before they dont they always have a processor you drop in works and most likely the fastest at what you do. the 9700k is mainly the fastest gaming cpu. period. blah blah this that it is. there isnt the issues amd has right now the only reason to look at a 3700x over it is the threads. will that matter basically over the period you own the cpu. the thing is looking at history no.

so you buying a 3700x instead of a 9700k based on hope. so you have a slower gaming cpu based on hope. buy on reality. the 9700k is better at gaming will be for probably the whole of its life and it isnt....it will be years down the line so you will still have had better performance for more years of ownership.

Ask the same question to 7700k owners Also the sole purpose of the CPU in your eyes is games, will you ever understand that not everybody is just a gamer? You yourself stream don't you? Either way all this they are superior and wont drop their prices is apparently garbage. They will lose market share in all areas while they have products that aren't all that compelling to all but gamers that literally do nothing else such as streaming, content creation etc. If you are purely a gamer and that is literally the only single focus then you are right the 9700 and 9900 might still be your go to. For literally anybody else on any other task the 9th gen just aren't all that compelling at current pricing.

 

[tommoT.Striker]

To be honest I didn't really believe a price drop was coming, but hey ho, there it is - no joke.

 

[~>Dg<~]

yeah media creation + gaming you making use of those extra threads. so its a viable option for amd. the problem is many people dabble in it not do it for work. so work out how much do you really do editing for gaming videos or stream.if its not much just get the intel chip and have a better gaming experience. if you only pumping out the odd video or doing odd stream its not really worth it.

7700k is still ocd as fast as the new amd cpus in games probably faster by a touch in most. if its just gaming.

to tommo yes 9900ks have dropped a little in price in last few days. so yes it will probably happen. intel see amd have stock shortages drop cpus a little in price people choose intel for builds. its simple and works. not only that many shops have caused this to happen as they have blagged they got stock took orders when they havent.

 

[Journey]

Ask the same question to 7700k owners

Man they got screwed over, anyone who bought Z270 or equivalent, if you bough one in Jan '17 at launch, by August you'd have been cursing Intel. Weird how they could just pull out a 6c/12t CPU from nowhere...

 

[Vince]

Man they got screwed over, anyone who bought Z270 or equivalent, if you bough one in Jan '17 at launch, by August you'd have been cursing Intel. Weird how they could just pull out a 6c/12t CPU from nowhere...

I would have been slightly annoyed. From the comments I see about the 7700k, although subjectively still relevant it appears to be falling away pretty quickly and my understanding is that it's bettered these days by even 1st gen Ryzen (Didn't hardware unboxed do a video on this?)

yeah media creation + gaming you making use of those extra threads. so its a viable option for amd. the problem is many people dabble in it not do it for work. so work out how much do you really do editing for gaming videos or stream.if its not much just get the intel chip and have a better gaming experience. if you only pumping out the odd video or doing odd stream its not really worth it.

7700k is still ocd as fast as the new amd cpus in games probably faster by a touch in most. if its just gaming.

to tommo yes 9900ks have dropped a little in price in last few days. so yes it will probably happen. intel see amd have stock shortages drop cpus a little in price people choose intel for builds. its simple and works. not only that many shops have caused this to happen as they have blagged they got stock took orders when they havent.

I thought the 7700k was pretty shocking in new titles? Basically a stutter fest in a lot of the new more threaded games. I mean my focus isn't really gaming but I do normally game for an hour a night or so on titles like pubg, csgo, risk of rain 2, project cars 2 etc. I do my gaming on a system that is nowhere near the fastest for gaming (1950x, 64gb 3466, Radeon7) and my experience is still perfectly good for me. I could certainly get a few frames here or there using a 9900k but sadly any mainstream Intel chip wouldn't be suitable for my other workloads or virtualisation work where I need the threads. 9980xe or something of that level would be suitable but the platform isn't quite as compelling and the chip is prohibitively expensive. Like anything in life choice is good! You work out what you need and see what is the best chip for you. TR was that chip for me but if I wasn't doing what I do then perhaps I would have something different. You pays your money and you make your choice

 

[4K8KW10]

If the quad-cores with HT are stutter fest, the next ones in the queue are the hexa-cores of AMD for everyone, Ryzen 5 3600, micro/macro-stutter, here it comes

 

[humbug]

why change what works ? intel as much as people hate them just deliver before they dont they always have a processor you drop in works and most likely the fastest at what you do. the 9700k is mainly the fastest gaming cpu. period. blah blah this that it is. there isnt the issues amd has right now the only reason to look at a 3700x over it is the threads. will that matter basically over the period you own the cpu. the thing is looking at history no.

so you buying a 3700x instead of a 9700k based on hope. so you have a slower gaming cpu based on hope. buy on reality. the 9700k is better at gaming will be for probably the whole of its life and it isnt....it will be years down the line so you will still have had better performance for more years of ownership.

Ask the same question to 7700k owners Also the sole purpose of the CPU in your eyes is games, will you ever understand that not everybody is just a gamer? You yourself stream don't you? Either way all this they are superior and wont drop their prices is apparently garbage. They will lose market share in all areas while they have products that aren't all that compelling to all but gamers that literally do nothing else such as streaming, content creation etc. If you are purely a gamer and that is literally the only single focus then you are right the 9700 and 9900 might still be your go to. For literally anybody else on any other task the 9th gen just aren't all that compelling at current pricing.

This, it has 8 Thread's @~>Dg<~ don't get me wrong it's a good chip but it's single figure percentages faster than the 3700X right now and i think it will make that up as more games get optimized for it, the 9700K because of Intel's stinginess with SMT on secondary SKUs it lack's thread's, the 9600K is already stuttering in some current AAA games due to a lack of Thread's, the 9700K only has 2 more, it's not going to last as a viable high end "Gaming CPU" for long.

Even i have more compute thread's than the 9700K.

 

[Vince]

If the quad-cores with HT are stutter fest, the next ones in the queue are the hexa-cores of AMD for everyone, Ryzen 5 3600, micro/macro-stutter, here it comes

I don't own 7700k so don't know! I am just going by some reviews I watched about 7700k and how it performs in the demanding titles of today. Ignorance isn't an excuse but it's the one I am using! I know that looking at my system the go to will be (all amd so fanboy) and that is fine but I can appreciate a good chip which is why I also use intel chips where they fit and is also why i'm typing this on a Kaby Lake G.

 

[~>Dg<~]

I would have been slightly annoyed. From the comments I see about the 7700k, although subjectively still relevant it appears to be falling away pretty quickly and my understanding is that it's bettered these days by even 1st gen Ryzen (Didn't hardware unboxed do a video on this?)



I thought the 7700k was pretty shocking in new titles? Basically a stutter fest in a lot of the new more threaded games. I mean my focus isn't really gaming but I do normally game for an hour a night or so on titles like pubg, csgo, risk of rain 2, project cars 2 etc. I do my gaming on a system that is nowhere near the fastest for gaming (1950x, 64gb 3466, Radeon7) and my experience is still perfectly good for me. I could certainly get a few frames here or there using a 9900k but sadly any mainstream Intel chip wouldn't be suitable for my other workloads or virtualisation work where I need the threads. 9980xe or something of that level would be suitable but the platform isn't quite as compelling and the chip is prohibitively expensive. Like anything in life choice is good! You work out what you need and see what is the best chip for you. TR was that chip for me but if I wasn't doing what I do then perhaps I would have something different. You pays your money and you make your choice

gaming wise its still faster than a amd 2700 in most titles. so still a good chip odd games with cores maybe a little issue but 99 percent are fine.it clocks high aswell so still good for a year or two. thats why like i was saying the 9700k will have enough cores and single core speed mhz to keep it fine for the ownership. in gaming. media production if doing it a lot or as work id probably get a 3900x if i needed to. still may get a 3900x myself if they can sort the issues out quick enough with the new amd cpus. otherwise i will just pop a 9900k in the pc im upgrading. there is going to be some price shifting in next few weeks both sides and new amd mobos to help sort some of the issues about. so it will be a bit clearer what route to take.

 

[nhornby51743]

I would have been slightly annoyed. From the comments I see about the 7700k, although subjectively still relevant it appears to be falling away pretty quickly and my understanding is that it's bettered these days by even 1st gen Ryzen (Didn't hardware unboxed do a video on this?)



I thought the 7700k was pretty shocking in new titles? Basically a stutter fest in a lot of the new more threaded games. I mean my focus isn't really gaming but I do normally game for an hour a night or so on titles like pubg, csgo, risk of rain 2, project cars 2 etc. I do my gaming on a system that is nowhere near the fastest for gaming (1950x, 64gb 3466, Radeon7) and my experience is still perfectly good for me. I could certainly get a few frames here or there using a 9900k but sadly any mainstream Intel chip wouldn't be suitable for my other workloads or virtualisation work where I need the threads. 9980xe or something of that level would be suitable but the platform isn't quite as compelling and the chip is prohibitively expensive. Like anything in life choice is good! You work out what you need and see what is the best chip for you. TR was that chip for me but if I wasn't doing what I do then perhaps I would have something different. You pays your money and you make your choice

Yes, the 4 core 7600K was outperformed by the 1600.

That came out not long before first gen Ryzen, and we've just had Ryzen 3, so I would be shocked if 8 core processors were no longer suitable in 2020 and beyond.

Some newer games still run on dual/quad cores, so there will be no issues with 8 core CPU's until at least they're usurped by a far better product at a lower price point.

 

[humbug]

Yes, the 4 core 7600K was outperformed by the 1600.

That came out not long before first gen Ryzen, and we've just had Ryzen 3, so I would be shocked if 8 core processors were no longer suitable in 2020 and beyond.

Some newer games still run on dual/quad cores, so there will be no issues with 8 core CPU's until at least they're usurped by a far better product at a lower price point.

By a huge margin in a couple of games, this what happen's when you don't have enough thread's.

4690K @ 4.6Ghz



Ryzen 1600 @ 3.9Ghz

 

[Davanius]

Has Intel really dropped the price or is this just one store?

 

[humbug]

Has Intel really dropped the price or is this just one store?

Just that one store, all other major retainers still have it at around £480 to £490.

Grab them while they still are at that price

PS: they are still the normal price on the US region of the same retailer.

 

[Davanius]

Thanks Humbug. It is tempting but as I am on a 8700k I won't see any real benefit as I most game on my PC.

£480 is ridiculous for that CPU.

 

[Hotwired]

I wouldn't sweat too much about 7700k owners. It's much harder to make it look bad in games than a lower clocked 4c4t CPU. I'm pretty sure a 5GHz 7700k is still in the top bunch for gaming.

Even now, for gaming, it's not a great plan to swap to AMD if you currently have one. You'd have to justify it with other metrics.

And the worst case scenario, 7700k owners have already had an extremely good gaming cpu for 2.5 years.

 

[kittenmittenz]

I didn't say want. But yes, some elaboration required It seems:

One could be forgiven for assuming that Zen2 was going to be problem free and a no-brainer over the likes of 9900K and 9900KS and thus waiting in anticipation for it's release.
But due to the poor and immature release of Zen2, it's limited stock, poor clocks, temperature issues and high prices of mid-top end X570 boards, one would be tempted to go for a 9900K build instead , which is a mature and powerful platform at a similar and sometimes better price (motherboard dependant).

This is coming from someone who has backed AMD Ryzen and still has multiple builds both personal and work implemented, and can still recommend it most circumstances. This is just one man's opinion.

Very precise reason I pressed the trigger on the 9900K at the new price. I want to plug it and enjoy it and not spend any of my time testing, tweaking, checking...

 

[~>Dg<~]

I wouldn't sweat too much about 7700k owners. It's much harder to make it look bad in games than a lower clocked 4c4t CPU. I'm pretty sure a 5GHz 7700k is still in the top bunch for gaming.

Even now, for gaming, it's not a great plan to swap to AMD if you currently have one. You'd have to justify it with other metrics.

And the worst case scenario, 7700k owners have already had an extremely good gaming cpu for 2.5 years.

yep and this is what many miss. so a intel chip may have less threads. if its top of the tree for gaming or beyond and amd chips for 2.5 to 3 years then you upgrade again which most do about 3 years in you chose the best cpu at the time. no amd cpu you buy now will beat in gaming in the next three years the 9700k or the 9900k. so for gaming only you choose intel unless you obviously already on a amd platform.

you only have to look at history of gaming said things said every year yet intel just provide what you need for when you need it. not hopes fingers crossed just the performance you need with no hassle.as long as you buy at the right time you will have the better performance.

amd and intel chips will drop. amd have to because of launch issues plus intel will tweak prices to be even more competitive. its win win for us. which is all good.

for the terrible 7700k for eg check battlefield 5 which is one of the best games for multicore https://www.techspot.com/review/1754-battlefield-5-cpu-multiplayer-bench/

all amd cpus below it. thats how it struggles. by beating multicore amd cpus

 

[Cooper]

Just pulled the trigger on the 9900K, Z390 Aorus Pro (Wi-Fi) & 32GB Ram DDR4 3200, 512GB Aorus M2 SSD, Dark Rock 4 Cooler (won't be overclocking so no need for an AIO) and a nice new Meshify C case with Copper & Deep Blue replacement front panels.

(already have my 850w Gold PSU & RTX 2080 in my current PC)

...not bad for £975.