Intel to Cut Prices of its Desktop Processors by 15% in Response to Ryzen 3000

[beany_bot]

What I'd save on CPU costs is more than cancelled out by the extra cost of a (decent) X570 motherboard (£200+) and higher speed RAM (32GB 3400-3600 £200+) to get the most out of it.

..I did the sums chaps and this build was cheaper....and faster

Well I did say this...

But was well and truly shouted at for trying to make the point... https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...w-the-gamers-choice-price-perf-king.18857005/

 

[chroniclard]

It was more the "toasty-ness" of the CPUs rather than their performance I was getting at. For all we can say about the 9700/9900, the new Ryzen 3000 series aren't exactly cloaking themselves with glory - even at stock - when it comes to temps.

For someone like myself who works on their PC all day, I prefer a silent build above everything else. It seems any step-up from my current completely silent 3770k based build to a newer processor is going to involve some significant changes should I wish to keep the rig silent.

People set fan curves expecting a linear progression of temperatures, its not like that with Ryzen. It jumps all over the place, with a correct fan curve(not so much a curve as almost totally flat until actual high temperatures), you will still have a silent(or quiet) build.

 

[kittenmittenz]

Just pulled the trigger on the 9900K, Z390 Aorus Pro (Wi-Fi) & 32GB Ram DDR4 3200, 512GB Aorus M2 SSD, Dark Rock 4 Cooler (won't be overclocking so no need for an AIO) and a nice new Meshify C case with Copper & Deep Blue replacement front panels.

(already have my 850w Gold PSU & RTX 2080 in my current PC)

...not bad for £975.

The dark rock 4 works very well with 9900k OC, air cooling is underrated.

 

[4K8KW10]

I don't know what you mean. Can you link something to describe it.

I'm aware the AMD cpus are very aggressive in doing the maximum they can within temperature and power limits.

Without seeing anything yet, high temperatures don't mean high power consumption and doesn't mean you need to use loud fan speeds. Lower running temps for the sake of it are not important right?

No.

High temperature means two things:
1. Higher power consumption;
2. Shorter longevity.
https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...-power-consumption-with-the-i7-2600k.2200205/


https://linustechtips.com/main/topi...span-of-a-cpu-voltage-or-temperature-and-why/

 

[easyrider]

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yeah and have a 1000 headaches getting it to run and find out the bios chip is too small. thats why they bringing out the new max 450 boards in less than a week ! why you think all retailers been putting them on sale.

Just flashed my Bios...Took me 30 seconds...all working fine...In fact I like the Lite Bios more...

Hardly 1000 headaches....

3700x incoming tomo....

 

[Hotwired]

No.

High temperature means two things:
1. Higher power consumption;
2. Shorter longevity.

Spoiler: click

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...-power-consumption-with-the-i7-2600k.2200205/


https://linustechtips.com/main/topi...span-of-a-cpu-voltage-or-temperature-and-why/

And how relevant is posting these snippets to the CPU's in question and the concerns of wanting a quiet computer I was replying to?

Are Ryzen CPU's actually drawing a lot of power? Last I saw they were more efficient than ever. Lower than comparable Intel cpus and since overclocking is worthless, much lower than overclocked comparable Intel cpus, which are also definitely hotter.

Are they dangerously hot? No.

So if they're not drawing excessive power and the temperatures are not dangerous, the question is, why would you plague yourself with noisy cooling to fix something which is a feature not a problem.

If it's generic information against part of what I posted, then sure what you're posting is correct but I question it's relevance.

 

[humbug]

And how relevant is posting these snippets to the CPU's in question and the concerns of wanting a quiet computer I was replying to?

Are Ryzen CPU's actually drawing a lot of power? Last I saw they were more efficient than ever. Lower than comparable Intel cpus and since overclocking is worthless, much lower than overclocked comparable Intel cpus, which are also definitely hotter.

Are they dangerously hot? No.

So if they're not drawing excessive power and the temperatures are not dangerous, the question is, why would you plague yourself with noisy cooling to fix something which is a feature not a problem.

If it's generic information against part of what I posted, then sure what you're posting is correct but I question it's relevance.

He doesn't post any of that crap against Intel despite the 9900K using more power and running hotter than any Ryzen CPU.

He's a troll, that's all.

 

[azazl187]

You can get a 9900k for 404 quid now but annoyingly Trident Z ram seems to have gone up in price by over 30%!? Very annoying

 

[TrM]

He doesn't post any of that crap against Intel despite the 9900K using more power and running hotter than any Ryzen CPU.

He's a troll, that's all.

in his defence though the things he linked was against the 2600k trying to prove a point against ryzen showing intels weekness and how power hungry even the 2600k was back in the day ^^

 

[Gibbo]

You can get a 9900k for 404 quid now but annoyingly Trident Z ram seems to have gone up in price by over 30%!? Very annoying

Memory prices are exploding again it seems so now is the time to buy as not all prices have gone up yet.

SSD looks to be effected as well.

 

[nomadd]

People set fan curves expecting a linear progression of temperatures, its not like that with Ryzen. It jumps all over the place, with a correct fan curve(not so much a curve as almost totally flat until actual high temperatures), you will still have a silent(or quiet) build.

Yeah, that's actually very similar to what I already do for my current rig. Whilst I'm doing my "day job" (development) on the PC, it doesn't result in much load and all the fans spin down; only in gaming do I have it kicking up a significant notch after temps breach a certain threshold.

I don't think I've seen anyone as yet do a silence-focussed build with Ryzen 3000 on YouTube. I'm sure someone will do one eventually, so I'll just keep my eyes peeled.

 

[nomadd]

Memory prices are exploding again it seems so now is the time to buy as not all prices have gone up yet.

SSD looks to be effected as well.

You've still too much holiday vino inside you.

 

[azazl187]

Memory prices are exploding again it seems so now is the time to buy as not all prices have gone up yet.

SSD looks to be effected as well.

But why!? There is no reason that I can see at all. Well apart form the ZEN2 release but that shouldn't affect them by 30%

 

[~>Dg<~]

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Just flashed my Bios...Took me 30 seconds...all working fine...In fact I like the Lite Bios more...

Hardly 1000 headaches....

3700x incoming tomo....

let me know what temps and speed you get upto all core. tempted to bag one when the 450 max boards are out.

 

[easyrider]

let me know what temps and speed you get upto all core. tempted to bag one when the 450 max boards are out.

I’m in two minds wether to return it and get a 3900x

 

[azazl187]

I’m in two minds wether to return it and get a 3900x

Just do that. You won't be happy until you do

 

[easyrider]

Just do that. You won't be happy until you do

If only there was stock

 

[Zernath]

But why!? There is no reason that I can see at all. Well apart form the ZEN2 release but that shouldn't affect them by 30%

Demand is apparently outstripping supply, and as we know, that's when the gouging usually starts!

 

[azazl187]

Demand is apparently outstripping supply, and as we know, that's when the gouging usually starts!

Only because they saw prices dropping and constricted flow to create a price increase. Its so corrupt

 

[Aretak]

What I'd save on CPU costs is more than cancelled out by the extra cost of a (decent) X570 motherboard (£200+) and higher speed RAM (32GB 3400-3600 £200+) to get the most out of it.

..I did the sums chaps and this build was cheaper....and faster

You're welcome to do as you wish, but your reasoning seems flawed. You had better have bought a pretty decent Z390 board to stick the 9900K for a start, because the low end ones certainly aren't suitable for handling it and will throttle like a mofo due to the VRMs overheating. Equally, Zen 2 is a lot less affected by RAM speeds than previous Ryzen chips were. The difference moving from 2400MHz to 3600MHz is around 5% extra performance, which is pretty much exactly in line with Intel's gain from faster memory. Whatever kit you bought would have been equally adequate for a Zen 2 chip.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-zen-2-memory-performance-scaling-benchmark/4.html