The mobile market back then wasn't as large to be fair, we started seeing a lot more devices coming out around the mid 2000s and their Turion line did pretty well up until Intel just started outclassing them pretty heavily in perf/W. But I'm going on tangents.
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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017
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Pentium M was a game changer for laptops as perf/W was even more important then as battery life might often be 2 or 3 hours prior to that.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/12/feature_intel_centrino_notebook_brand_ten_years_old/?page=1
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That's what I'll be looking at, no need to stay HEDT with mainstream 8 cores by then. Though if i go x99 -> Ice Lake then i will probably upgrade again 2 years or so later when DDR5 comes around
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Okay! So what's due in 2010 and why are you ignoring the alleged 8 core Ice Lake that might be out next year?
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It will interesting to see how the expert sales staff in PCWorld/Currys handle selling Ryzen desktop boxes!
Right now the Ryzen 5 1600 is £189 so when you add even a very basic £30 GPU that takes the price to £219.
The i5-8400 6 core is supposedly going to be £165 so that’s a £54 difference in total; it has an iGPU which keeps the platform price down.
These are retail prices for the components so the OEMs will need a much larger bulk discount from AMD to be competitive with Intel at the entry level which is an important price point.
Then they have to sell AMD on the basis of hyper-threading versus Intel’s brand awareness which should be interesting. Although do people who frequent such stores even have much brand awareness let alone know what HT is!
Is this likely to lead to reductions in retail pricing for Ryzen 5 soon or even Ryzen 7?
Right now the Ryzen 5 1600 is £189 so when you add even a very basic £30 GPU that takes the price to £219.
The i5-8400 6 core is supposedly going to be £165 so that’s a £54 difference in total; it has an iGPU which keeps the platform price down.
These are retail prices for the components so the OEMs will need a much larger bulk discount from AMD to be competitive with Intel at the entry level which is an important price point.
Then they have to sell AMD on the basis of hyper-threading versus Intel’s brand awareness which should be interesting. Although do people who frequent such stores even have much brand awareness let alone know what HT is!
Is this likely to lead to reductions in retail pricing for Ryzen 5 soon or even Ryzen 7?
Why would anyone pay attention to another 8 core chip? If you want 8 cores you have how many to choose from? 50 a 100 starting from £250.
Well if they have any sense It will be Ryzen API's they fit.
They'll sell more of the raven ridge APU's I'd have thought as that will have 4 good cores and much better graphics. That's when AMD will take more market share, at that point you would assume that the 1600 would have dropped in price.
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So let's ignore Zen 2 and other new CPUs because you know, you can already buy CPUs!
People buying will look at whatever is on the market at the time so if there are new 8 cores you'd be dumb not to check them out.
What 8 core can you buy for £250 now as the Ryzen 7 1700 is £279?
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That's a different market of course and limited to 4 cores.
Deflection is so popular with some people on these forums.
Just about any laptop that Dell sold at the time, because they nearly all had AMD cpu's until Intel managed to bribe them to take Centrino's instead.....................................maybe you should look and read other threads on here ?
Edit: that is bribe Dell, not AMD lol
I think you are getting mixed up with the desktop market share, AMD's week point was always mobile sadly and they never made the same splash as they did with desktop. Intel benefited heavily from the PIII derived Pentium M architecture which eventually was developed and became the domineering force that was Core2, and the rest as they say is history.
Yep. How many workstations do guys in purple shorts sell? How purple shirt buyers are looking at 6 core 12 thread systems?
The big question is how many big prebult system vendors are going to invest in a platform thats getting replaced in 6 months when you have AM4 with a unified range of CPU's and APU's
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The big vendors are doing ryzen no favours if this video is anything to go by:
Running memory in single channel mode......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVw9VuofPzU
Has more to with it being budget level so they probably wouldn't know or understand what they are buying or what to expect. Not for people like us though.
Lol at the plastic removing experience
Has more to with it being budget level so they probably wouldn't know or understand what they are buying or what to expect. Not for people like us though.
Lol at the plastic removing experience
I bet it would boot first time. Could be ideal for some...
I bet it would boot first time. Could be ideal for some...
Just stop. You have already been proved to talk ****.
Cold boots are a thing, confirmed by multiple users, AMD even put a boot retry count in their bios lol. Asus engineer Elmor has also confirmed it has an issue booting >3200 in conditions less than 20c
Again, what I type falls on deaf ears so I don't know why I'm even bothering.
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When the i5-8400 arrives at around £165 seemingly, it is firmly in the mainstream pricing wise as the first 6 core with graphics for under £200. Nothing to do with Workstations!
