Not really as in that info is not 100% accurate.
If all you build a PC for is gaming it's a console.
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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017
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Not really as in that info is not 100% accurate.
If all you build a PC for is gaming it's a console.
So, you know different to the guys at hardware.info?
Do you like to disagree with everything in this thread or are you always like this?
Hot damn 5ghz 6 core. I'm in.
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+1 im sold, however we wont be sure how easily that is achieved and what cooling was used, how does that core voltage look in that screenshot? and how does that PI benchmark thing compare to other cpu's etc?
X299 was also 5Ghz Hype, then they launched and some reviewers boiled their Motherboards VRM's and sometimes chips to try and get them to 5Ghz. 
PCPer even said to Intel they use too much power and develop far too much heat for anything like 5Ghz, Intel turned round and said "You're doing it wrong"
Well ok, have it your way, we'll give it credence, a 3.0Ghz Ryzen 1700 is only 10% slower than a 5.1Ghz 7700K.
Works for me.
There aren't any 8 core CPU's in it, Core i5's and Ryzen 5's, thats it....
Some of the results.. before you start, you posted it.
I'll use it to make this point again, in this 6 core Intel thread, 4 core CPU's are obsolete...
PCPer even said to Intel they use too much power and develop far too much heat for anything like 5Ghz, Intel turned round and said "You're doing it wrong"
@humbug GamersNexus aren't good at benchmarking because you don't agree with the results?
Their methodology is top notch, a lot better than most tripe that passes for reviews these days, they have a page for it in most of their articles.
@Raffles1911 Supposedly around October.
Well ok, have it your way, we'll give it credence, a 3.0Ghz Ryzen 1700 is only 10% slower than a 5.1Ghz 7700K.
Works for me.
There aren't any 8 core CPU's in it, Core i5's and Ryzen 5's, thats it....
Some of the results.. before you start, you posted it.
I'll use it to make this point again, in this 6 core Intel thread, 4 core CPU's are obsolete...
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X299 was also 5Ghz Hype, then they launched and some reviewers boiled their Motherboards VRM's and sometimes chips to try and get them to 5Ghz.
Well ok, have it your way, we'll give it credence, a 3.0Ghz Ryzen 1700 is only 10% slower than a 5.1Ghz 7700K.
Works for me.
There aren't any 8 core CPU's in it, Core i5's and Ryzen 5's, thats it....
Some of the results.. before you start, you posted it.
I'll use it to make this point again, in this 6 core Intel thread, 4 core CPU's are obsolete...
You spent quite an effort in that video. If you'd have paid enough attention instead of charging off you'd have seen at around 7mins in they introduce a 7700k and a 1700. Guess who wins?
Core count can only carry you so far.
No, you're right the 4.8Ghz gets about a 15% performance advantage over the 4Ghz Ryzen Chips in most of those games, it is 25% higher clocked, the 7700K is not its 25% faster despite being that much higher clocked, so either the Ryzen chips have a higher IPC or the 7700K is starting to get a little bottlenecked by its 8 vs 12 and 16 threads.
The 7700K is not faster all the time, again despite its massive clock advantage, what is going on here? even the Ryzen 5 is beating the 7700K, and look at the light blue frame times of the 7700K, compare it with the frame times of the Ryzen chips, whixh of those is smoother? The Ryzen chips, why is that?
Why would any attention need to be paid, the title of the video is Ryzen 5 1600/1600X vs. Core i/5/i7/Ryzen 7 Gaming Benchmarks.
Reminds me of people failing basic GCSE exams as they didn't read the question properly.
No, you're right the 4.8Ghz gets about a 15% performance advantage over the 4Ghz Ryzen Chips in most of those games, it is 25% higher clocked, the 7700K is not its 25% faster despite being that much higher clocked, so either the Ryzen chips have a higher IPC or the 7700K is starting to get a little bottlenecked by its 8 vs 12 and 16 threads.
The 7700K is not faster all the time, again despite its massive clock advantage, what is going on here? even the Ryzen 5 is beating the 7700K, and look at the light blue frame times of the 7700K, compare it with the frame times of the Ryzen chips, whixh of those is smoother? The Ryzen chips, why is that?
Your screenshot doesn't show the r5 beating the i7. Go and look at the division in that video if you want to talk about frametimes.
Why would any attention need to be paid, the title of the video is Ryzen 5 1600/1600X vs. Core i/5/i7/Ryzen 7 Gaming Benchmarks.
Reminds me of people failing basic GCSE exams as they didn't read the question properly.
Yep!
I can't wait till the 8700k is out to put this to bed. 8700k will murder ryzen in games.
In that screenshot:
Ryzen 1600X 116 FPS
Ryzen 1700 122 FPS
7700K 112 FPS
A different screen shot, this time without the ##### stupid advertisement bar that pops up to obscure what you are looking at the instant you pause it, i ###### hate destructive advertising like that.
Its why i run Adblock+ #### em'all, far too aggressive with that crap these days.
Boring! When it's going to be twice the price of the R5 1600, if it wasn't better then they might as well not release it
I'll say it again, the only interesting CPU is the i5-8400 at £175, 6 cores, decent clocks, decent price, no need to overclock it. It'll be interesting to see that when it's boosting to 4GHz in quad mode, vs, the Ryzen 5's at 4.0GHz.
In that screenshot:
Ryzen 1600X 116 FPS
Ryzen 1700 122 FPS
7700K 112 FPS
A different screen shot, this time without the ##### stupid advertisement bar that pops up to obscure what you are looking at the instant you pause it, i ###### hate destructive advertising like that.
That's one game where ryzen with more cores and faster ram wins by a margin. Look at the others
Boring! When it's going to be twice the price of the R5 1600, if it wasn't better then they might as well not release it
I'll say it again, the only interesting CPU is the i5-8400 at £175, 6 cores, decent clocks, decent price, no need to overclock it. It'll be interesting to see that when it's boosting to 4GHz in quad mode, vs, the Ryzen 5's at 4.0GHz.
Go big or go home!! There's no such thing as intel and value, we all know this
if you want the best then cough up the cash.I did, again you're not reading what people are saying to you.
You posted this video
No, you're right the 4.8Ghz gets about a 15% performance advantage over the 4Ghz Ryzen Chips in most of those games, it is 25% higher clocked, the 7700K is not its 25% faster despite being that much higher clocked, so either the Ryzen chips have a higher IPC or the 7700K is starting to get a little bottlenecked by its 8 vs 12 and 16 threads.
The 7700K is not faster all the time, again despite its massive clock advantage, what is going on here? even the Ryzen 5 is beating the 7700K, and look at the light blue frame times of the 7700K, compare it with the frame times of the Ryzen chips, whixh of those is smoother? The Ryzen chips, why is that?
I did, again you're not reading what people are saying to you.
You posted this video
I think it's a case that the GPU is at its limit, not that ryzen has a better IPC. Nowhere else in any other review has anyone stated that ryzen has better IPC than kaby. It's more like haswell.
Its actually about the same IPC as KabyLake, KabyLake has a clock speed advantage, Ryzen has a core advantage and a huge cost advantage, and better power consumption if you're interested in such things, makes them cheaper to cool, i guess.
Yes, The Ryzen 5 is able to keep the 7700K at arms length, its not more than 10% faster in most things, the 7700K is much faster in a few, but the Ryzen 5 is also able to keep better minimums is a few other things, smooth gameplay.
Its pretty clear when you look at these performance differences you're getting for the 7700K its less than its clock speed advantage, its not that Ryzen has better IPC, its maybe 1 or 2% less if anything, what Ryzen does have is more compute threads, more than the 7700K's 8.
In a 6 core Intel thread that is not an Insult to Intel, not anymore, something else you need to come to grips with, its just fact and a welcome one given we will now get 6 core CPU's from Intel too.
custom watercooling loop with 240 rad, non delided, on a Gigabyte motherboard.
with auto OC at 4.7Ghz the board uses 1.37v making the chip stays around 75-79 Celcius during Cinebench R15.