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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

Stop making it sound 5ghz is easy then?

It was also a pre-selected chip from Intel.

It is easy, all you need is to delid that $999 CPU use a 240 aio in an air controlled office and get intel to do the binning for you.
What's not easy about that? :p
 
Stop making it sound 5ghz is easy then?

It was also a pre-selected chip from Intel.

because it is?

these engineering (not retail) samples are thermally limited, so it seems they're all capable of 5ghz as long as you have adequate cooling, I'm personally going for the 8 core so with 20% less heat should be much easier to cool.

gotta be willing to cool things if you want the best performance I guess :)
 
Do you have a link to lucky_noob's overclock?

All the google results are just you spouting it on various forums and reddit.

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Found it now. 4.5ghz running cinebench. Not indicative of anything about max overclock. Also there is a 120mm fan on cooler.
 
Do you have a link to lucky_noob's overclock?

All the google results are just you spouting it on various forums and reddit.

edit:

Found it now. 4.6ghz running cinebench. Not indicative of anything about max overclock.

guess we have to wait till Monday for reviews of retail samples+ boards I guess?
 
Fine by me. So stop saying we they overclock to 5ghz.

I bet not a single reviewer without exotic cooling will get 5ghz stable.

I was quoting 5ghz with a delid, which clearly they will do. 4.8ghz without delid on decent cooling.

I was saying the 6 and 8 cores will have an easier time getting to 5ghz because they generate less heat, and obviously skylake x isn't voltage limited
 
I was quoting 5ghz with a delid, which clearly they will do. 4.8ghz without delid on decent cooling.

I was saying the 6 and 8 cores will have an easier time getting to 5ghz because they generate less heat, and obviously skylake x isn't voltage limited

You have seen 1 chip do 5ghz. Which was confirmed to be binned by the overclocker himself. Thick could be a golden unicorn for all we know.
 
You have seen 1 chip do 5ghz. Which was confirmed to be binned by the overclocker himself. Thick could be a golden unicorn for all we know.

Such skepticism is the right approach in my book. Come Monday we will know more; personally I will only pay attention to OC3D and Digital Foundry reviews myself; the remainder out there I find pretty biased and unreliable.

- Sorry for talking SKL-X in the CFL-S thread.
 
Such skepticism is the right approach in my book. Come Monday we will know more; personally I will only pay attention to OC3D and Digital Foundry reviews myself; the remainder out there I find pretty biased and unreliable.

- Sorry for talking SKL-X in the CFL-S thread.

Been burnt too many times :P
e8400,4690k and remember the article saying the ryzen r7 can do 4.0ghz on stock cooler? Yeah right!
 
Such skepticism is the right approach in my book. Come Monday we will know more; personally I will only pay attention to OC3D and Digital Foundry reviews myself; the remainder out there I find pretty biased and unreliable.

- Sorry for talking SKL-X in the CFL-S thread.


wonder when review samples for CFL will be sent out if it's due in august?

july? or later?
 
Been burnt too many times :p
e8400,4690k and remember the article saying the ryzen r7 can do 4.0ghz on stock cooler? Yeah right!

Yep! And as fun as speculation is, it's still only speculation. For me it's fun but at the end of the day I would want to see actual reliable results before I can form an actual and honest opinion and see if it met or failed to meet my expectations.
 
Been burnt too many times :p
e8400,4690k and remember the article saying the ryzen r7 can do 4.0ghz on stock cooler? Yeah right!

I was hell-bent on getting a 7820X or maybe even a 7900X, however I've just taken two steps back, you know, to let sanity get back in, to see what Monday brings and let myself get back to where I started my quest: wanting a (Intel) more than 4C chip with HT for gaming (=high frequency) and it may very well be CFL-S that's the best fit for my needs. Maybe Intel will surprise us with an 8C part?
 
I was hell-bent on getting a 7820X or maybe even a 7900X, however I've just taken two steps back, you know, to let sanity get back in, to see what Monday brings and let myself get back to where I started my quest: wanting a (Intel) more than 4C chip with HT for gaming (=high frequency) and it may very well be CFL-S that's the best fit for my needs. Maybe Intel will surprise us with an 8C part?

Yeah these new skylake x are certainly not aimed at the gaming market. Not in my opinion anyway.
That said 8 core is where I would expect everybody to be looking if they want an upgrade.
 
Yeah these new skylake x are certainly not aimed at the gaming market. Not in my opinion anyway.
That said 8 core is where I would expect everybody to be looking if they want an upgrade.

Intel is marketing the new HEDT as such (gaming) but I don't know. 8C-10C would make sense for streamers (if they will perform well in games to begin with) but upwards? Nah.

8C is the new 4C for sure. That's why I am hoping that Intel will release an 8C/16T Coffee Lake-S part with a nice big fat L3 cache (15MB would be nice), it would also benefit their mainstream market seeing as the competition has just that. So it's hoping that, but doubting they will. It would make for a more logical segmentation as well: leave HEDT for the prosumers and the mainstream for gamers and below, with the 8C/16T chip they deserve.
 
Intel is marketing the new HEDT as such (gaming) but I don't know. 8C-10C would make sense for streamers (if they will perform well in games to begin with) but upwards? Nah.

8C is the new 4C for sure. That's why I am hoping that Intel will release an 8C/16T Coffee Lake-S part with a nice big fat L3 cache (15MB would be nice), it would also benefit their mainstream market seeing as the competition has just that. So it's hoping that, but doubting they will. It would make for a more logical segmentation as well: leave HEDT for the prosumers and the mainstream for gamers and below, with the 8C/16T chip they deserve.

a 8/16 coffee lake is what im praying for also BUT god only knows what intel will try and charge for it im not expecting a sub £375 price tag at the very best and probably closer to £450. which will count me out unless it has a good 25% on ryzen running at stock speeds. i aint paying a premium just because its intel this time around.
 
Intel is marketing the new HEDT as such (gaming) but I don't know. 8C-10C would make sense for streamers (if they will perform well in games to begin with) but upwards? Nah.

8C is the new 4C for sure. That's why I am hoping that Intel will release an 8C/16T Coffee Lake-S part with a nice big fat L3 cache (15MB would be nice), it would also benefit their mainstream market seeing as the competition has just that. So it's hoping that, but doubting they will. It would make for a more logical segmentation as well: leave HEDT for the prosumers and the mainstream for gamers and below, with the 8C/16T chip they deserve.

This is what they should do, but we all know intel. Hell I wouldnt be surprised if they bought out a separate socket just for coffee lake 8 core.
 
I really want coffeelake, but would go for a 7820x if reviews are good? No need to go more the 8c/16t just for gaming. Just wish Intel would release some info on coffeelake because I really don't want to pay for HEDT if I could help it?
 
a 8/16 coffee lake is what im praying for also BUT god only knows what intel will try and charge for it im not expecting a sub £375 price tag at the very best and probably closer to £450. which will count me out unless it has a good 25% on ryzen running at stock speeds. i aint paying a premium just because its intel this time around.

I think those guestimated prices will be very close to reality, if such a part comes into existence.

This is what they should do, but we all know intel. Hell I wouldnt be surprised if they bought out a separate socket just for coffee lake 8 core.

You will hear a grown man sob then (and I will record and post it :D ). But yeah, releasing such a chip for the mainstream is what they should do if they have any sense.

I really want coffeelake, but would go for a 7820x if reviews are good? No need to go more the 8c/16t just for gaming. Just wish Intel would release some info on coffeelake because I really don't want to pay for HEDT if I could help it?

Makes sense! Although we have only seen two NDA breaking reviews, from 2 sites who are owned by the same company no less FYI, I am a little worried about the new cache architecture which seems to be more beneficial for particular prosumer applications than for gaming. Good reviews will sort that out but until then I'm looking weary eyed at it.

Even if we will get a CFL-S 8C/16T SKU, how long will it take games to catch up (to my knowledge only newer Frostbite stuff, a few turn-based games (X-Com?) and Destiny 2 utilize it properly?)? Heck, even with the 6C/12T we may see 2C twiddling their thumbs (which would a sight for sore eyes) 99% of the time. All I hope for is that the current core wars leads to implementation. And as for either the realistic and hypothetical CFL-S SKUs, my hope is for a very nice frequency @ 14nm++ and the nice L3 cache increase to 12MB won't hurt either.

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Some first hand SKL-X news:

Hardware Canucks said:
Hope no one is done X299 testing & taking weekend off! Newest BIOes from last 48hrs provide significant perf uplift. Time to retest.....

https://twitter.com/hardwarecanucks/status/876162292139909120

Hardware Canucks said:
Uplift are across the range of processors.

https://twitter.com/hardwarecanucks/status/876168415966355459
 
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