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Yes, the whole point of the initial release is 95W K parts.
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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017
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Yes, the whole point of the initial release is 95W K parts.
ah ok
Coffee Lake may well fit Z270 but Intel will launch a new one with it and most probably a new one with Ice Lake because that is just how they roll.
But remember Intel will not want you to overclock these chips, especially if they are kabylake +2 cores. They may well get quite hot.
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Yes but that was in the days of tick-tock. Now we have architecture-optimisation-process, which Intel isn't even sticking to because Coffee Lake is a second "optimisation" step, like Kaby Lake was. To have a whole new socket for an optimisation step and sticking with 2 generations per socket is ridiculous since it means there won't even be a new architecture on Z370 or whatever they call it!
the only possible thing I can think of is if Intel release the z370 as a new chipset for comparability issues.
I'm no expert on vrms, the midrange and up motherboards probably have way overkill power delivery for the 4 core, but i can imagind theres some lower end options thst couldnt handle the extra draw from 2 more cores.
so maybe it will be a refresh from vendors, and the capable board will get a bios update?
it's so hard to guess because it's the first time we havnt had the usual tick tock so we knew what was coming.
can't think of what would actually be different on the chipset, z170-270 had optane plus 4 more pcie lanes?
ddr5 is still 3 or 4 years away, not sure how long till pcie 4.0?
It's pretty good if your in the business of selling motherboards though.
I take it they are releasing more than just the 6 core chips on coffee lake, as in the usual 2 and 4 core versions. If so then their is no real reason the 2 and 4 core chips will not be compatable through a bios update, leaving the 6 cores needing a new chipset due to possible power delivery issues.
I take it they are releasing more than just the 6 core chips on coffee lake, as in the usual 2 and 4 core versions. If so then their is no real reason the 2 and 4 core chips will not be compatable through a bios update, leaving the 6 cores needing a new chipset due to possible power delivery issues.
Not necessarily true. depends on how much it costs to develop a board when moving to a new chipset.
True. You'd have to think that the reason they do so, is so that they can make some money though, surely they wouldn't bother if it wasn't in their interest to do so. Obviously though, that depends how many they would sell but those numbers would be less if people were sticking to the same board over multiple cpu changes.
Does intel/AMD get royalties from MB sales? that would explain why intel would be keen to release new MB, each year.
id imagine they have to buy the chipset bits direct from amd and intel then add their own stuff to it. but not sure exactly as without motherboard makers neither cpu maker can sell a single cpu.
Yep they do, according to this https://revenuesandprofits.com/how-intel-makes-money/
Which would explain why they are always so keen.
I think for MB vendors, I'm not sure a 12 month lifecycle on there motherboards maximises profits for them, in comparison to research cost. Unless when new chipsets come out the simply pop the old ones out and plonk the new ones in.
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they must make some profits by reselling the same esential board to a degree. like the asus z270 hero, code and other maximus boards are all essentially the same thing with extras tacked on, like the code just has some plastic attached.
I imagine things like the heatsink covers etc are the easiest things to change and are why boards look more unique, even when physically the same underneath.
either way I'm sure asus/gigabyte/msi etc all make a pretty penny selling motherboards
Wait, there's going to be a quad core version of Coffee Lake-S? Seems odd considering it has no IPC increase, unless they've managed to push the clocks (and the power usage) up even more than with Kaby Lake? Other option is to actually make i7-7700K EOL and replace it with a cheaper i7-8700K, giving the hex core i7-8760K (or whatever it'll be called) a more comfortable price range to sit in between the i7-8700K and the i7-7800X.
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intel pulling a nvidia and amd/ati rebrand i bet. "its a new i3 cpu (formally i5 4c4t)" guess no sign of a 8/16 then. oh well.
Possible due to Kaby Lake Pentiums being 2c/4t but I still wouldn't bet on it.