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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I think the main issue there has to be a "winner" in all of this stuff,so it descends to one is "crap" and the other is the "bestest". I think it really depends on what you run and what you want from a rig.

Personally I prefer the CPU performance of Coffeelake in the games I play(a number have crap engines,but can't do much about that),but I prefer the platform approach AMD seems to be pushing since I keep my stuff for long.

My attitude with Coffeelake,is the CPUs are solid,but it seems a bit rushed - the lack of B360 chipsets for a few months,kind of dents the value proposition of the Core i5 8400,and Core i3 8100 which for me look like very nice budget CPUs.
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Yeah I have a 8600K and also a Ryzen 1700, As I mainly game I think I will keep the 8600K due to the higher clock speeds etc. As I game at 1440p it seems to come more down to the graphics card than the CPU. Need to swap the 1070 for a 1080Ti but I think I will sit it out until Volta.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I actually remember reading about competitive gamers and many apparently drop settings in the game to make it look utterly crap. Why?? It not only boosts FPS but in a number of games it cuts down on foliage,etc meaning its easy to spot your enemy from distance,etc.

Most gamers from my experience over the last 20 years,are not that competitive - its why consoles which target 30~60FPS still seem acceptable,and also why if you look at Steam that most people are really at GTX1060 level performance and below,game at 1080p and probably have a 4C/4T or 2C/4T CPU. Also the most common "expensive" card is the GTX1070,which is outranked by the GTX960 IIRC.

Its why even Digital Foundry and channels like Hardware Unboxed kind of mock themselves when they always state we are not testing a "normal" situation by running a GTX1080TI at 1080p since we are actively looking for "CPU limitations".

They state it in their reviews FFS!!

I mean don't get me wrong,I would rather have a Core i5 8400 over a Ryzen 5 1600 for the games like FO4 I play since I have modded it to no end and have massive settlements.

However,amongst all of my mates who play the game I am the only one who has taken modding and settlement building and ran with it,ie,I am at the mod limit for example.

All of them do perfectly fine on slower CPUs,but I am aware I am a niche.

OTH,I have a mate who has a Ryzen 5 1600 and a RX570,and for the games he runs like Overwatch he has not complained one bit about performance. Another mate who is going to get a Ryzen 7 1700 but less for gaming but more for some of his worked related stuff.

Its good to have a choice now!!
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Yes I have seen people running PUGB with low settings so you can see players in grass without problems.But I owuld feel that I play some old game, which i prefer to have a nice graphic. I ma playing OW on R5 1600 @144Hz with 1440p monitor wihtout issues.
 
jaffveyda said:
Yes I have seen people running PUGB with low settings so you can see players in grass without problems.But I owuld feel that I play some old game, which i prefer to have a nice graphic. I ma playing OW on R5 1600 @144Hz with 1440p monitor wihtout issues.
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Me too - I want my shiny graphics!! I can confirm OW runs fine on a Ryzen 5 1600 as my mate has one with an RX570 and he has had no complaints so far!

Stanners said:
Now that is a thought ;)
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Do eet!! :p
 
Feels like people have been posting more to justify their Ryzen purchases in this thread rather than actually talk about Coffee Lake.
We already have a lot of reviews which show Coffee Lake doing significantly better than Ryzen in non GPU limited scenarios, why do we always revert back to these pointless discussions?

If you want to talk about Ryzen or your future Ryzen purchase, just do it in the Zen thread or make a new one.
 
Im only able to get 4.6 hz stable using 1.35v with my i5 8600k using prime but using intel turbo i can hit 4.8 hz stable in prime with temps mid 60 degrees while playing( horizon 3) 4k ultra settings i just wondered if there is any disadvantage of using this as a lazy overclock. I mostly use my pc for gaming
 
Confuzz said:
Im only able to get 4.6 hz stable using 1.35v with my i5 8600k using prime but using intel turbo i can hit 4.8 hz stable in prime with temps mid 60 degrees while playing( horizon 3) 4k ultra settings i just wondered if there is any disadvantage of using this as a lazy overclock. I mostly use my pc for gaming
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How many volts is it pumping through at 4.8?

Mine does 4.9Ghz just upping the multiplier to 49 and manually setting the voltage to 1.35. I reckon I could push it quite a bit more when I get time to tinker.
 
Stanners said:
How many volts is it pumping through at 4.8?

Mine does 4.9Ghz just upping the multiplier to 49 and manually setting the voltage to 1.35. I reckon I could push it quite a bit more when I get time to tinker.
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i monitored the volts to be 1.394 a bit higher than i would like but temps are good i have noticed in turbo mode 2 of my cores are used more and still have a lower temperature than the others. which i guess is why it is still stable which it isn't if i OC all cores to 4.8ghz with same volts. To be honest im a bit of a rookie as only built my first pc this year and im still learning a lot
 
AndreiD said:
@CAT-THE-FIFTH Polish review, but the graphs should be easy to read: https://www.purepc.pl/procesory/tes...d_ryzen_5_1600_wojna_szesciu_rdzeni?page=0,43
They're using an i5 8400, but the RAM comparison is a bit extreme, 2133 vs 3200.
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Hmm,looks like it does like fast RAM too,but hard to say and what was the default speed the RAM was run at during the tests?? I can't see what default speeds they used!! I was hoping to see how bog standard 2400MHZ/2667MHZ RAM performed,especially since it would relevant once the B360 comes out(plus I have some similar speed RAM which I got for cheap a few months ago).
 
AndreiD said:
@CAT-THE-FIFTH Polish review, but the graphs should be easy to read: https://www.purepc.pl/procesory/tes...d_ryzen_5_1600_wojna_szesciu_rdzeni?page=0,43
They're using an i5 8400, but the RAM comparison is a bit extreme, 2133 vs 3200.
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This is the cpu I'm going to order.

Do you think I should pay more and get the faster ram? or will I have enough frames with 8400 and 1070?(i play 60hz 1080p)

Is there much price difference going for 3200?

Edit: Do you guys think these would be good for my 8400? They only like £10 more than the cheap stuff.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...nel-kit-black-red-tdprd48g3200-my-073-tg.html
 
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AndreiD said:
Feels like people have been posting more to justify their Ryzen purchases in this thread rather than actually talk about Coffee Lake.
We already have a lot of reviews which show Coffee Lake doing significantly better than Ryzen in non GPU limited scenarios, why do we always revert back to these pointless discussions?

If you want to talk about Ryzen or your future Ryzen purchase, just do it in the Zen thread or make a new one.
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I think it is just you ;)
 
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