Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

jaffveyda · 10 Oct 2017 at 18:58

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Wow! The 3000MHZ/3200MHZ sets are very expensive at OcUK.

What's happened to memory prices, they were below £100 few months ago. No wonder why PC gaming is dying.

Doobedoo · 10 Oct 2017 at 19:01

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Wow! The 3000MHZ/3200MHZ sets are very expensive at OcUK.

Maybe they were making hay while the ryzen sun was shining.

Doobedoo · 10 Oct 2017 at 19:03

jaffveyda said:
What's happened to memory prices, they were below £100 few months ago. No wonder why PC gaming is dying.

Yeah I picked up 16gb of ddr3 for about £50 a while ago. It comes down to supply and demand again.

To think ram costs more than a cpu now not brilliant, ssd prices stuck at the same price for ages.

imginy · 10 Oct 2017 at 19:09

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Looks OK to me,but I would aim for 16GB if possible!!

I have 4 slots though right so can I just get 8gb (2x 4gb) now and then get another 8gb (2x4gb) at a later date?

Or is 2x 8gb better than 4x 4gb?

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 10 Oct 2017 at 19:13

imginy said:
I have 4 slots though right so can I just get 8gb (2x 4gb) now and then get another 8gb (2x4gb) at a later date?

Or is 2x 8gb better than 4x 4gb?

AFAIK,if you run the RAM faster than 2667MHZ you are technically overclocking the memory controller and two sticks of RAM will put less stress on the controller than four sticks of RAM.

OTH,it also depends if you are trying to push the memory controller massively,so is a Coffee Lake Core i5 fine at running 4 sticks of RAM at 3200MHZ??

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 10 Oct 2017 at 19:16

jaffveyda said:
What's happened to memory prices, they were below £100 few months ago. No wonder why PC gaming is dying.

Doobedoo said:
Maybe they were making hay while the ryzen sun was shining.

I am talking about pricing now in the UK - £170 for 16GB of 3200MHZ RAM is expensive!

Doobedoo · 10 Oct 2017 at 19:18

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I am talking about pricing now in the UK - £170 for 16GB of 3200MHZ RAM is expensive!

Yep and all those with ryzen need 3200.

chroniclard · 10 Oct 2017 at 19:25

Doobedoo said:
Yep and all those with ryzen need 3200.

They dont actually "need" it, its just they will gain a few FPS using faster ram.

Doobedoo · 10 Oct 2017 at 19:27

chroniclard said:
They dont actually "need" it, its just they will gain a few FPS using faster ram.

To get the best out it to be correct

. Point is their is a demand for it.

chroniclard · 10 Oct 2017 at 19:29

Doobedoo said:
To get the best out it to be correct . Point is their is a demand for it.

Yeah, but I think its mostly down to shortages, inflation and poor exchange rates.

Look at this from rainforest and weep!

Doobedoo · 10 Oct 2017 at 19:34

^^^

Shocking. Part of me wished I didn't know that as I can't pay those prices, I absolutely hate paying more than somethings worth.

Journey · 10 Oct 2017 at 19:46

Doobedoo said:
^^^ Shocking. Part of me wished I didn't know that as I can't pay those prices, I absolutely hate paying more than somethings worth.

I take it you don't like paying for fuel for your car then.

Doobedoo · 10 Oct 2017 at 20:08

Journey said:
I take it you don't like paying for fuel for your car then.

How could you have possibly have known

. Luckily for me I have a works vehicle and a fuel card and I'm not afraid to use either

.

DragonQ · 10 Oct 2017 at 20:21

chroniclard said:
Yeah, but I think its mostly down to shortages, inflation and poor exchange rates.

Look at this from rainforest and weep!

Exchange rates have improved since April and inflation hasn't happened that quickly. It's because all the big fabs are prioritising memory for mobile phones since that's where the money is right now. Both DRAM and SSDs are suffering and it sucks.

Panos · 10 Oct 2017 at 20:23

chroniclard said:
Yeah, but I think its mostly down to shortages, inflation and poor exchange rates.

Look at this from rainforest and weep!

Or very bad wields, hence Intel now is removing the all boost core speed.
You get a 8700K that guarantees 1 core to boost at 4.7Ghz, and thats all. If the chip is crap and the rest of the core cannot get higher than their base speed, isn't an issue.....for Intel.
So no two 8xxx series CPUs are the same, nor their clocks going to be the same.....

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/in...close-multi-core-turbo-boost-frequencies.html

Doobedoo · 10 Oct 2017 at 20:25

DragonQ said:
Exchange rates have improved since April and inflation hasn't happened that quickly. It's because all the big fabs are prioritising memory for mobile phones since that's where the money is right now. Both DRAM and SSDs are suffering and it sucks.

Yeah but it's not like you cannot get it like coffeelake for example. It's still available you just have to pay double for it.

gavinh87 · 10 Oct 2017 at 20:31

Panos said:
Or very bad wields, hence Intel now is removing the all boost core speed.
You get a 8700K that guarantees 1 core to boost at 4.7Ghz, and thats all. If the chip is crap and the rest of the core cannot get higher than their base speed, isn't an issue.....for Intel.
So no two 8xxx series CPUs are the same, nor their clocks going to be the same.....

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/in...close-multi-core-turbo-boost-frequencies.html

In other news, no two nvidia GPU's are the same.....
Of course no two 8xxx are the same, no two anything silicon based are the same. This has always been the case.

AndreiD · 10 Oct 2017 at 20:44

Panos said:
Or very bad wields, hence Intel now is removing the all boost core speed.
You get a 8700K that guarantees 1 core to boost at 4.7Ghz, and thats all. If the chip is crap and the rest of the core cannot get higher than their base speed, isn't an issue.....for Intel.
So no two 8xxx series CPUs are the same, nor their clocks going to be the same.....

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/in...close-multi-core-turbo-boost-frequencies.html

They didn't guarantee all core turbo before either, why are people fluffing this news up when they don't even have a basic understanding of how Intel's Turbo works?
They never guaranteed all core turbo frequencies on any of their chips, they only advertise base clocks and max turbo, just like guess which other company...

DragonQ · 10 Oct 2017 at 20:50

Of course, the whole point of turbo is it's a clever way to both advertise high clocks and low TDP. "Yes it'll reach these amazing clocks...but only for 5 seconds because otherwise it'll produce too much heat."

southernorth · 10 Oct 2017 at 20:59

The most 'reasonable' price I've seen for decent RAM recently is 16GB of 3000mhz Corsair DDR4 for £136 - and even that is £50 more than it should be. 3200mhz for £155 aswell, but that 200mhz bump for £20 doesn't seem worth it, or is it?