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Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

CPU are becoming like GPU's already are, clocked up about as far as they will go, the 7700K is already like this @ 4.5Ghz on all cores, 4.8 to 4.9 is reality on those, thats well under 10%. actually its little over 5%.

Yeah, very little headroom now. Good for folk that like running at stock but not us lot!
 
Absolutely, yes, in another game you get the opposite, maybe not in anything you own, just to pre-empt the "no i don't" retort.

_______ me this is the point i'm trying to make, Intel and AMD are not the same, so they are not going to behave the same doing the same thing, one is better at this, the other at that....

PS: DG spends his life here trying to get a rise out of me, i'm not flattered, he's not impressive enough... he bores me.
Don't get sucked into it :)

ive benched the games in mp aswell not stupid single player.majority of games are still faster on a 5820k overclocked than ryzen chips.you always on about value that chips is 3 years old and cost about 200 if you one of the lucky ones who got them at that price lol.

no rise its just the truth.7700k still beats all ryzen in majority of games even at stock.now you have new intel replacements that will be even faster.intel have gaming sealed up.no doubt amd have great value though.just dont make out they beating intel in gaming when just arent.
 
ive benched the games in mp aswell not stupid single player.majority of games are still faster on a 5820k overclocked than ryzen chips.you always on about value that chips is 3 years old and cost about 200 if you one of the lucky ones who got them at that price lol.

no rise its just the truth.7700k still beats all ryzen in majority of games even at stock.now you have new intel replacements that will be even faster.intel have gaming sealed up.no doubt amd have great value though.just dont make out they beating intel in gaming when just arent.

Please invest in a space bar. No matter how valid your point may be its hard to take you serious when you type like a child.
Google chrome even puts a little red line underneath to tell you when something isn't right!
 
I have decided I CBA updating my old IB Core i7 just for one single player game especially when it's still playable(after all building a 20+ story tower with 50 NPC's and 200+ mods probably is not helping!).

So whilst all you chaps with your new fangled superchips are doing CPU wars I will be still stuck on a 5+ year old CPU running at 3.7ghz!

:p
 
I have decided I CBA updating my old IB Core i7 just for one single player game especially when it's still playable(after all building a 20+ story tower with 50 NPC's and 200+ mods probably is not helping!).

So whilst all you chaps with your new fangled superchips are doing CPU wars I will be still stuck on a 5+ year old CPU running at 3.7ghz!

:p

But, shiny!
 
Not at all :)
I found this an interesting read.
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/ryzen-strictly-technical.2500572/
Written by someone that knows an awful lot more than dare I say, 99% of this CPU forum?

It compares the Single thread, multi thread (4c4t) and SMT vs HT perf @ 3.5ghz for each between excavator, zen, haswell and kaby. Over a LOT of different tests.

DDR4-2667 used......

You keep posting benchmarks from 6 months ago.

Both SkylakeX and Ryzen need higher speed ram to perform. Ofc their perf tanks against CPUs using ring topology, because of how differently the systems communicate with each other.

Have a look at how SkylakeX behaves with higher speed ram. Same applies to Ryzen from my reply to you yesterday. (also see bellow)

https://imgur.com/a/XU6na

https://community.amd.com/community...emory-oc-showdown-frequency-vs-memory-timings
 
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Feel free to find another test with as much depth as thestilts findings with 3200.

See my amended reply above post AGESA 1006 also

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DDR4-2667 used......

You keep posting benchmarks from 6 months ago.

Both SkylakeX and Ryzen need higher speed ram to perform. Ofc their perf tanks against CPUs using ring topology, because of how differently the systems communicate with each other.

Have a look at how SkylakeX behaves with higher speed ram. Same applies to Ryzen from my reply to you yesterday. (also see bellow)

https://imgur.com/a/XU6na

https://community.amd.com/community...emory-oc-showdown-frequency-vs-memory-timings

Ryzen has already has an increase over haswell and excavator in that test due to ddr4 vs ddr3.

Granted, they perform better with higher ram speeds.
The problem is not everyone is running at 3200 and above.
Do a search and see how many people have issues hitting that speed without getting bdie memory.
As far as I know I'm the only guy on here with ryzen at 3466. To get that required using a £280 board and £280 memory and a great deal of luck.

If ryzen is going to be used in its best configuration then intel should also be in its best configuration.
 
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As far as I know I'm the only guy on here with ryzen at 3466. To get that required using a £280 board and £280 memory and a great deal of luck.

I used some cheap B350 boards from ASRock, with R5 1600's and Corsair LPX 3466 RAM, and it runs at 3466MHz, the rubbish Asus B350 Prime couldn't go past 3200MHz with the exact same RAM, and I had 12 sticks of it. I built four systems in total, after getting the components correct, I stuck with the LPX, and ASRock board, they are just work horse machines, so I ended up tightening the timings and putting them at 3200Mhz, as the performance was the same all in.
 
The problem is I blame HUKD. I got new shiny in the form of a new lens since it was a silly price,so upgradetitis has been satiated for a while now.

:p

I hate that site, I but so much crap that I don't need and will never use!

I used some cheap B350 boards from ASRock, with R5 1600's and Corsair LPX 3466 RAM, and it runs at 3466MHz, the rubbish Asus B350 Prime couldn't go past 3200MHz with the exact same RAM, and I had 12 sticks of it. I built four systems in total, after getting the components correct, I stuck with the LPX, and ASRock board, they are just work horse machines, so I ended up tightening the timings and putting them at 3200Mhz, as the performance was the same all in.

Thanks journey, it adds to my point here. It's inconsistent, you need a magic combo it seems lol. Seriously though I had a 1700 that would not go above 2933 same board same ram.
 
I used some cheap B350 boards from ASRock, with R5 1600's and Corsair LPX 3466 RAM, and it runs at 3466MHz,

Runs as in "I can game and bench on it" or run as in "passes 400% full coverage HCIMemtest" run? Because my threadripper will game and bench at 3600 but will only pass memtest at 3466.

I have a feeling (judging by gavins past posts) that he has quite a high threshold for ram stability.
 
Runs as in "I can game and bench on it" or run as in "passes 400% full coverage HCIMemtest" run? Because my threadripper will game and bench at 3600 but will only pass memtest at 3466.

I have a feeling (judging by gavins past posts) that he has quite a high threshold for ram stability.

Fair question. I'd also like to know exactly which 'cheap B350 boards from Asrock'. I've already pretty much decided my next board is going to be Asrock (X370 or Z370, depending what CPU will work best for me); but I've seen loads of people throwing around loose recommendations about how x board or y RAM is fantastic, but they never actually say which one they're on about.
 
Runs as in "I can game and bench on it" or run as in "passes 400% full coverage HCIMemtest" run? Because my threadripper will game and bench at 3600 but will only pass memtest at 3466.

I have a feeling (judging by gavins past posts) that he has quite a high threshold for ram stability.

Haha you could say that. 3466 at 14-14-14-28 at HCI 4000% was enough for me.
 
Ouch is coffeelake z370 only? Looks like I'm going to have to delid and clock my 7700k to 5ghz as I don't want to do a mobo change as well.

Was hoping for a drop in chip replacement.
 
Ouch is coffeelake z370 only? Looks like I'm going to have to delid and clock my 7700k to 5ghz as I don't want to do a mobo change as well.

Was hoping for a drop in chip replacement.

Yes. 8xxx is Z370 only. And in 7 months CannonLake is Z390 only.
 
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