Interlagos - Brazilian Grand Prix 2009 - Race 16/17

Pot, Kettle, Black?

I particularly liked this from April 17th:
Jenson Button has damaged the credibility of formula one, according to Flavio Briatore, Renault's team principal. The Brawn driver is leading the championship after two races while the big names of the sport have struggled, but Briatore compared him to a "concrete post".

(http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/apr/17/jenson-button-brawn-flavio-briatore-formula-one)
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I guess that this view can to some extent be explained by this from yesterday:
The now-disgraced Flavio Briatore sacked him from the Renault team in 2002 in order to promote his own protégé, Fernando Alonso, shortly before Bernie Ecclestone advised David Richards, the BAR-Honda boss, against reviving the Briton's career.

(http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2009/oct/18/jenson-button-brawn-brazilian-grand-prix)
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Oh how the mighty are fallen into the fiery pits of hell :D
 
FrankJH said:
I actually believe that when Williams announced the Cosworth /termination of toyota deal a weeks ago or so they also announced they would not be using KERS either

I actually think it ruins the racing, as cars can use it to stay ahead of much faster cars as Kovi esp has shown a number of times, and if everyone has it - then it becomes poiintless imo
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I think KERS should stay and its because it adds another dimension to the race. With KERS you have to make sacrifices to weight distribution and although it makes the car fast, it also can make it less stable and that adds to the fun of the grid.

I'm sick and tired of all the cars being pretty much the same. I would love to see a throw back to the old days of the supercharged/turboed/NA'd engines with each team completely different. Keep it the technoligal pinnicle but allow differences, makes it more interesting as certain cars would be better at certain tracks.
 
sunama said:
Then it is the responsibility of the team which doesn't have KERS to ensure that they equip their cars with a KERS device. Remember, when developing your car, you need to think about who is driving the car and whether or not they have the ability to get the most out of the KERS device. For example, if I was designing a car for Fisichella, I wouldn't put KERS in, as he seems to struggle when it comes to pressing so many different buttons, braking, acclerating, etc..
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It also deends on the height and weight of the driver whether it can be fitted to the car, not only that but there are other reasons why it cant be fitteed to all cars (like the Brawn this season due to late deal with Merc and non-optimal positioning of engine for centre of gravity etc)


sunama said:
I disagree. Some drivers have the ability to get the most out of KERS, while others don't get much out of KERS. Its simply another weapon in a car's arsenal. Drivers such as Hamilton, who play lots of playstation games and are well versed in pressing lots of buttons will find KERS easy to operate, while some drivers prefer to concentrate on their braking points, accelerating points, driving lines, only.
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dont agree with that - simply because it doesnt take that much to press a single button coming out of a corner lined up on the straight

Im not knocking what F1 drivers have to do, I know there is a lot going on in the cockpit, but I dont agree that any of the full time top drivers cant cope - even Kovi can cope with it and while Fisi plainly cant, I personally just think its because the Ferrari is a biatch of a car more than anything else (I dont rate Fisi at all, even before this but the FI car must be really easy to handle in comparison)

BlizzardX said:
I think KERS should stay and its because it adds another dimension to the race. With KERS you have to make sacrifices to weight distribution and although it makes the car fast, it also can make it less stable and that adds to the fun of the grid.

I'm sick and tired of all the cars being pretty much the same. I would love to see a throw back to the old days of the supercharged/turboed/NA'd engines with each team completely different. Keep it the technoligal pinnicle but allow differences, makes it more interesting as certain cars would be better at certain tracks.
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I agree with the principal - the issue is that majority of the grid are going to be using two or three engines and htats where the issue lies (Mercedes - McLaren, Brawn, FI and possibly one more), Cosworth (Williams & 3 or 4 new teams) , Ferarri (themselves + Torro Rosso),

Thats possibly more than 20 cars sharing 3 different engines (and Im not sure whats happening to Renault regarding supply to another team - not sure what Red Bull are doing).

I would also suggest that in majority of cases it will be the engine supplier designing the KERS system (Williams is a one off) , I can just see a lot more chance of there being "blocks" of engine manufacturer cars on the grid after each qualifying with such an point and shoot system - as some grids turned out to be this year but with Cosy it will only become more likely imo
 
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Good little vid that. I was always impressed with Jenson even when he joined williams he had a few really good races.

Benetton was always going to be a struggle with Flav when he isn't your manager.

I'm glad his hard work and years have finally paid off because I really don't see him winning another title. I can't see Brawn having enough resourses for a few years yet, which was clearly evident in their lack of decent developement.

Mind you I don't see Vettel winning one either, he makes far far too many mistakes. He's another one of those drivers labelled as a champion in waiting that I cannot see winning one if another team puts him under pressure.

Lost count of the amount of times he ran wide this year.

Can't wait to see what Red Bull and Brawn do regards KERS. If they don't run it next year they will be nowhere. Brawn say they have done a lot of work on next years car but how can they when we don't actually know whose going to break the agreement.

I'm sure Williams are just doing it to create confusion and delays in development for other teams.
 
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