Interlagos - Brazilian Grand Prix 2009 - Race 16/17

Dr Who · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:44

I would go closer to the times list than that one.

Mansells personality out of the cockpit has zero to do with his ability on the track. He gave Senna a run for his money on many occasions! He was a racer, not a win at all costs cheat like some more recent champions and for unknown reason, respected drivers.

dannyjo22 · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:44

Burned_Alive said:
I think Lewis should be quite high on that list and certainly above Damon, Jenson and Mike Hawthorn purely due to how long he'd been in the sport and the age at which he won his championship. Not to mention that he nearly won the championship in first season racing.

He nearly won it in his first season because he was in one of the best, if not the best car. I'd put Damon above him purely because we won in the williams, Jordan and got within 2 miles of a win in an arrows.

Where as Hamilton in a car that wasn't the best at the start of the year almost sounded like he was giving up and his performances where less than noticable if he wasn't the current world champion.

Hamiltons problem for next year is how many sets of tyres he eats through on full fuel loads. He will not be able to carry on driving as he has, no one will that has a car moving around a lot.

JRS · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:45

I'm really not sure about how I'd rank them, aside from the number 1 spot. That has to be Jim Clark. Everyone else.....equal second

Glaucus · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:45

dannyjo22 said:
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Where as Hamilton in a car that wasn't the best at the start of the year almost sounded like he was giving up and his performances where less than noticable if he wasn't the current world champion.
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Despite getting that heap of junk car into the points on several occasions. What rubbish.

Dr Who · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:46

Well the young current drivers are hard to rate, let's wait and see how their career goes

FrankJH · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:46

JRS said:
Jim won at Indy with Lotus the year before Graham won it with Lola.

ok fair enough - I had forgotten about that, even so I would still rate that little collection around the same "level"

Flibster · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:46

Dr Who said:
I would go closer to the times list than that one.

Mansells personality out of the cockpit has zero to do with his ability on the track. He gave Senna a run for his money on many occasions! He was a racer, not a win at all costs cheat like some more recent champions and for unknown reason, respected drivers.

Says nothing about rating them on track ability alone.
I've taken everything into account. Including the fact that I just never liked him - Even when he was at Lotus... And thats painful to say.

Hence Hunt being rated higher.

Dr Who · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:48

You rated him for his alcohol abuse?

Flibster · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:49

Dr Who said:
You rated him for his alcohol abuse?

And when commentating, leaving the booth and having Murray say he "just gone for a look at the back of the circuit"

Nice try Murray, we all know he had gone for a joint.

Dr Who · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:51

Admittedly, James was less annoying than Martin Brundle in the commentary box!

Glaucus · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:52

I still say we need a petition to get R5L as the main commentators. They are a zillion times better than brundle and co.

Dr Who · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:54

Brundle reminds me of Arthur Pewty

FrankJH · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:54

Burned_Alive said:
I think Lewis should be quite high on that list and certainly above Damon, Jenson and Mike Hawthorn purely due to how long he'd been in the sport and the age at which he won his championship. Not to mention that he nearly won the championship in first season racing.

that Golden spoon McLaren gave him kind of puts a different perspective on that dont you think?

He undoubtedly did very well without a doubt - but both Damon and Jenson both had to work at getting decent cars without beign gifted them their 1st season (and in Damon's case was a clear no 2 in the team)

dannyjo22 · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:56

Brundle is awesome. I'd just like someone better with him. Davidson would be nice.

F1 fans always whinge about the commentators, It must be about as tough a commentating job as there is. Watching reems of different data, while watching the track and talking to millions at the same time.

F1 fans slated Murray, then Allen and now Leggard is getting the Allen treatment.

Flibster · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:57

Murray and Hunt or Brundle were superb.

dannyjo22 · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:57

FrankJH said:
He undoubtedly did very well without a doubt - but both Damon and Jenson both had to work at getting decent cars without beign gifted them their 1st season (and in Damon's case was a clear no 2 in the team)

That wasn't Damons first season, alongside prost

Jono8 · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:57

JRS said:
I'd never have guessed that you'd think that.

So you'd place him above Button, that much I can guess. Where would you put Hamilton on that list?

Not really sure, but i would put him above Button.

Glaucus · 20 Oct 2009 at 14:59

dannyjo22 said:
Brundle is awesome. I'd just like someone better with him. Davidson would be nice.

F1 fans always whinge about the commentators, It must be about as tough a commentating job as there is. Watching reems of different data, while watching the track and talking to millions at the same time.

F1 fans slated Murray, then Allen and now Leggard is getting the Allen treatment.

Murry was funny, he might of been wrong a lot. But he was entertaining and had bags of personality. which more than made up for it and that is what made him great and R5L who ever it is with Davison is just perfection.

FrankJH · 20 Oct 2009 at 15:02

dannyjo22 said:
That wasn't Damons first season, alongside prost

Well maybe I should have said according to the team at the time

edit - always thought Hunt was a bit "meh" myself

dannyjo22 · 20 Oct 2009 at 15:12

AcidHell2 said:
Murry was funny, he might of been wrong a lot. But he was entertaining and had bags of personality. which more than made up for it and that is what made him great and R5L who ever it is with Davison is just perfection.

Every now and then I whack on F1 97 on the ps1 with Murray and Brundle doing the commentary, that was perfection for me.