International Men's Day!

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November 19th is In Men's Day!

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Happy International Men’s Day 2023!

Happy International Men’s Day in the UK. Come and Join In!
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Stay strong brothers! If you are struggling then seek out some help. There is no shame in that. We all have emotional set backs in life. It is how we come through adversity that is the test of man.
 
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Yep, could talk about men's issues all day, how I've been affected by them (quite a lot), and how society treats them (disrespectfully). I'll spare everyone the rant.

Sign this:

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Archived Petition: Appoint a Minister for Men and Boys

Appoint a Minister for Men and Boys to address problems that either exclusively or disproportionately involve men. Issues such as: - Male Health Issues - Suicide - Educational outcomes - Rough sleeping - Involvement with the criminal justice system - Victims of violent crime
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throwaway4372 said:
Yep, could talk about men's issues all day, how I've been affected by them (quite a lot), and how society treats them (disrespectfully). I'll spare everyone the rant.

Sign this:

petition.parliament.uk

Archived Petition: Appoint a Minister for Men and Boys

Appoint a Minister for Men and Boys to address problems that either exclusively or disproportionately involve men. Issues such as: - Male Health Issues - Suicide - Educational outcomes - Rough sleeping - Involvement with the criminal justice system - Victims of violent crime
petition.parliament.uk petition.parliament.uk
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Yep.

Oh men should talk more..... proceeds to talk. NO I DON'T MEAN LIKE THAT.

Ok then.
 
moon man said:
Yeah it's a big issue, I remember telling my doc I wouldn't take my own life for my family's sake but there's been times when I would have been happy not to wake up, guess we have all ( well some of us) been there
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Been there too. Don't think I'd ever have gone through with it due to fear of the end. But I've been there feeling there's no one to talk to
 
What I've realised is that men are typically terrible at looking after each other, the people I've spoke the most with about any personal issues are always women. If a woman goes through anything difficult in life, their friends will typically reach out to them, most women have a great support network around them, where as men are just left to get on with it. I'm not surprised so many kill themselves.
 
Roar87 said:
What I've realised is that men are typically terrible at looking after each other, the people I've spoke the most with about any personal issues are always women. If a woman goes through anything difficult in life, their friends will typically reach out to them, most women have a great support network around them, where as men are just left to get on with it. I'm not surprised so many kill themselves.
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I love women. But women have never been in a situation of being invisible to the world like many men suffer to varying degrees (women usually have the opposite problem).

In my relationships they have always adversarial to some degree. I think that is natural. So relationships generally are an emotional roller coaster, which isn't good when something serious comes up. I think that is why a lot of guys end up preferring not to bring those subjects up.

Whereas if you have male friends then you all have lived a similar experience in early life, and generally male friends will sit and listen. There is no judgement (apart from banter!).

The stakes are generally not high when talking to male friends. Sometimes just sounding out your thoughts and maybe getting feedback is always a good thing.
 
Roar87 said:
What I've realised is that men are typically terrible at looking after each other, the people I've spoke the most with about any personal issues are always women. If a woman goes through anything difficult in life, their friends will typically reach out to them, most women have a great support network around them, where as men are just left to get on with it. I'm not surprised so many kill themselves.
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Sad but true.

As I was telling my female friend, unless a man is a threat to kids or women then the world doesn't care. If you are a woman going through problems, every person in the world will pull out their hand to help them.

Thankfully I have a good support network from males and females when I had rough times in the past but I know this isn't normal for every man.
 
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Every time I see a post about men's day the "patriarchy" and gender ******** mob arrive.

Over 70% of suicides are men under 50 and it's the biggest killer of men under 50. But no one cares when a whole load of a few 1000 people can't decide what gender they want to be this week
 
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dlockers said:
lol 6 posts in and it becomes an incel anti-women thread. GG GD.
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Discussing men's and boy's problems is not being anti-women nor is recognising the fact that women do receive more support for their issues. Their support networks are better simply due to them feeling more able to reach out than men do and their support networks listening without fearing they will be ridiculed or dismissed. Its pretty well documented.

Women have done a fantastic job of garnering support and recognition of issues that affect them and, as a result, have their issues addressed and discussed... Men, on the other hand, still suffer from this "man up" attitude from society and a lot of that comes from men themselves meaning issues solely affecting men are just not discussed... Note, i didn't say ignored - they just don't register on the discussion radar at all.

The very fact it seems difficult to even mention men's problems on a predominantly male forum without being slapped down as incel/misogynistic simply reinforces the isolation and reluctance that men will have to speak about their issues.
 
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I think it also shows it's very important and beneficial to have friends of the opposite sex. I know I suck talking about feelings but I am fortunate that 2 of my best and closest friends are female so I can rant to them when I want to get bits off my chest.

I'm very guilty of it myself. I suck at talking about feelings and I'm straight up with my friends that I am not the one to come to if you need to talk. Not because I don't care, I just don't have answers.
 
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I'm very guilty of it myself. I suck at talking about feelings and I'm straight up with my friends that I am not the one to come to if you need to talk. Not because I don't care, I just don't have answers.
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That's just a typical guy response though... A lot of the time, people don't want answers, they just want someone to listen.... Guys, unfortunately, tend to let their minds wander on how to FIX the problem of the person unloading on them rather than just listen and be empathetic and so tend to miss half of the conversation.

Next time someone is obviously venting, stop trying to find a solution for their problem unless they directly ask for it. Just listen actively.
 
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Nasher said:
Every time I see a post about men's day the "patriarchy" and gender ******** mob arrive.

Over 70% of suicides are men under 50 and it's the biggest killer of men under 50. But no one cares when a whole load of a few 1000 people can't decide what gender they want to be this week
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more women attempt suicide than men.

The differences in suicide rate have a lot less to do with actual mental health issue incident rates but methods.


How many people have committed suicide due to homophobic or transphobic bigits?
 
D.P. said:
more women attempt suicide than men.

The differences in suicide rate have a lot less to do with actual mental health issue incident rates but methods.


How many people have committed suicide due to homophobic or transphobic bigits?
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In the UK marginally more women than men attempt suicide (8% vs 5% in England, more in Scotland) but significantly more men than women are "successful" (75% vs 25% of attempts). The figures show men are disproportionately affected by it even when taking into account the higher percentage of women attempting it.

 
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