The GUI was revolutionary, it has changed the future of smartphones permanently.
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No it didn't, it just got there first.
I wouldnt say it was 'revolutionary' more evolutionary. Its a typical apple product very simple/efficient. Its speed/effects are fantastic and the way you can use it with fingers is awesome (still not matched). Id say the mobile internet browser is pretty revolutionary though (for a mobile phone).
But its the delivery system (the store) that makes it so good. Symbian/WIndows Mobile do have the apps but they are hard to find for the average user, sometimes hard to install and very often just arent as polished as iphone apps. The app store solves all of these problems - ovi store is a joke at the moment, the android store is pretty good though.
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oh ffs, i wrote a massive post on the revolutionary aspects of the iphone but because my wireless connection is blocked sometimes by my crotch it's all gone.
I'll summarise:
Iphone hardware and software at launch = Unremarkable
Apple = The shepherd of sheep
Phone manufacturers = Want to capture the sheep
Software designers = ""
Every good phone after the iphone = dubbed iphone killer by community
Every iphone killer = ripped for being called an iphone killer and labelled a flop by the same community
In closing, I saw an article recently on the Palm Pre in which they had apparently examined all the reviews so far and come to the conclusion that "the Pre cannot not compete with the iphone" which I found laughable when in a lot of ways the iphone 3G cannot compete with a nokia 6630.
That is all
I'll summarise:
Iphone hardware and software at launch = Unremarkable
Apple = The shepherd of sheep
Phone manufacturers = Want to capture the sheep
Software designers = ""
Every good phone after the iphone = dubbed iphone killer by community
Every iphone killer = ripped for being called an iphone killer and labelled a flop by the same community
In closing, I saw an article recently on the Palm Pre in which they had apparently examined all the reviews so far and come to the conclusion that "the Pre cannot not compete with the iphone" which I found laughable when in a lot of ways the iphone 3G cannot compete with a nokia 6630.
That is all
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It isn't revolutionary, just evolutionary. It isn't like Apple "redefined the cell phone"; they were just the first manufacturer to take the inevitable step and converge the tablet PC and the cell phone.
Isn't a WIMO device a tablet and phone combination, and that sucks!
And they werent even the first at that. They just did it best and for some reason no one can catch up. lame.
Chances are, any screen res change would would knacker app compatibility.
What is there to catch up to, a phone with no MMS or video capabilities? A phone with no physical keyboard?Well, no one is catching up yet I should say.
To put it this way: if the iphone was the best phone ever and no one could "catch up to it" everyone would have an iphone, yet 99% of people do not...
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The new iphone has MMS and video but thats beside the point. I was talking about the OS - it simply is the best OS at the moment, Im hoping others catch up.
The only "revolutionary" feature of the actual phone is the smoothness/speed of the interface, and one of the reason for that is it is only built for a very specific set of hardware (2 types so far). Whereas Symbian and WinMo are on multiple hardware configs by multiple companies.
The delivery system is good, but again the only reason it can be that good is that it caters for only 2-3 devices of almost identical specification (mainld processor power and resolution), WinMo and Symbian apps need to work with dozens of different configurations and screen resolutions. As for difficult to find, just type the name or operation of the program into google followed by the device type (eg WM6) and you will find loads of apps, the main problem with WinMo applications is that there are so many of them, there are loads of different types of file explorer for example, WinMo is so mature that there is almost too much available for it. As for refinement, I would disagree, there are plenty of big companies out there designing applications for both other OS's, all very refines, along with lots of individuals.
However the lack of one distinct site where you can view all the available programs is one big plus for apple.
There have been a few phones over the years labelled the iPhone killer, and stuck, but there are also loads that have been labelled that before release then sucked as you said.
Well, no one is catching up yet I should say.
There are a few phones that have caught up and overtaken the iPhone, have a look round.
The only benefit of the iPhone is the slightly more fluid interface, which android has matched, WM is not quite as fluid but the wider range and better hardware (of some) has also overtaken it.For example, who needs to zoom in to brows the internet any more? That's ooooollllldddd.
Unfortunately true. Still, having a screen four times the size but only twice the resolution of my old Samsung D900 shows how poor it really is - there are phones out there now with smaller screens and higher resolutions.
The only "revolutionary" feature of the actual phone is the smoothness/speed of the interface, and one of the reason for that is it is only built for a very specific set of hardware (2 types so far). Whereas Symbian and WinMo are on multiple hardware configs by multiple companies.
So you are agreeing with me
The delivery system is good, but again the only reason it can be that good is that it caters for only 2-3 devices of almost identical specification (mainld processor power and resolution), WinMo and Symbian apps need to work with dozens of different configurations and screen resolutions. As for difficult to find, just type the name or operation of the program into google followed by the device type (eg WM6) and you will find loads of apps, the main problem with WinMo applications is that there are so many of them, there are loads of different types of file explorer for example, WinMo is so mature that there is almost too much available for it. As for refinement, I would disagree, there are plenty of big companies out there designing applications for both other OS's, all very refines, along with lots of individuals.
However the lack of one distinct site where you can view all the available programs is one big plus for apple.
Its not beyond the realms to create a store that identifies the OS/resolution of the phone, showing only the apps that are relevant to that phone. It can be done, Im sure Nokia wont come up with such an effective solution though! (however they will tailor certain apps to your location - which is nowhere near as useful.
WiMo and Symbian have so many apps yes - but neither have a store like the apple store - both companies should use such a back catalogue (which they are starting to do)..
There have been a few phones over the years labelled the iPhone killer, and stuck, but there are also loads that have been labelled that before release then sucked as you said.
There are a few phones that have caught up and overtaken the iPhone, have a look round.
Id say only Android comes close, its still not as good as iphone OS imo. Palm Pre is a good effort actually, pity about the hardware. But to say WiMo is anywhere close is a bit laughable -that OS is dire - lets all pray for WiMo 7. Symbian, well lets hope the foundation get it sorted or the fabled Maemo phone is decent.
For example, who needs to zoom in to brows the internet any more? That's ooooollllldddd.
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It doesn't even multitask applications... /facepalm
So you are agreeing with me
Yep.
I was backing you up.True, and that's sort of what the two biggest sites I know do, but you have dozens of phones out there with multiple os's (WM6.1, 6, 5 etc) so it's a pain in the **** a lot of the time, especially for older programs, that may work on newer phones but have stopped being supported (which i why I mentioned it being almost too mature).
I'm not basing my opinion on just the OS, but also the hardware, which as we all know, apple is miles behind in that respect. As for the OS's anodrid is good, although I haven't used it myself, but WinMo is perfectly fine on a phone with enough power and a big enough screen, yes it is a pain in the **** trying to touch buttons on a 2 1/2 inch screen, but most modern WM devices now have larger screens, along with decent hardware to push the OS along it is close to rivalling the iPhone in the OS stakes. It's not as fluid no, and it can be more fiddly, but that is partly due to the multiple different platforms it needs to support and the much greater customisation you can do on it. As mentioned, there have been a few iPhone killers as people call them that have stood the test of time (well months anyway). The iPhone is definately not the best phone on the market anymore.
Having had Winmo for ages now - I'd say it's ****ing awful and end up hating it - and that's also one what's meant to be one of the industries better phones (HTC). Not tried andriod yet but hopefully that would be miles better (not hard to beat Winmo though), tested an iphone and have to admit (although didnt want to) it's miles better than any other phone I've seen or tested. End of the day its a phone not a computer so what it does do - it does extremely well! Unlike other phones that maybe able to do more but suffer that crash/lag annoyance 
Some things like ooooh hasn't got a video - It's a phone, most videos I've seen are awful and would never be of much use (Im looking at you HTC)
Switching programs? The only reason you need to do that with Winmo is 'cos its so ****** slow loading them up - better to keep them open
Some things like ooooh hasn't got a video - It's a phone, most videos I've seen are awful and would never be of much use (Im looking at you HTC
) Switching programs? The only reason you need to do that with Winmo is 'cos its so ****** slow loading them up - better to keep them open
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Chipsey, have you used android? It is so much more capable and versatile than the iPhone OS it's unreal.
And yes, there are many reasons one would want to run more than one application at once. I saw someone say a similar thing on another forum about iphone multitasking, his words were "why would you want to" the question should be "why wouldn't you want to" and the answer is merely because Steve Jobs said it is better.
Say I want to have my xbox live friends list on updating me with notifications when people come online, whilst talking to people on msn/facebook/aim and uploading my latest photos to Picasa, whilst the weather widget grabs the latest weather info I could even launch into a game whilst doing that if I wanted to and surprisingly my phone does not show much difference in performance.
You know what's funny, I watched the iPhone 3GS video, they seemed so proud of all of their new features, like MMS and videos which have been available on almost every phone for years and then features like the compass and cut/copy/paste I thought "ok my G1 can do all that already too".
The 3GS is the first iphone that is truly on par with every other phone manufacturers offerings. The OS is also improving, and what you like about the iphone OS is not that it's better, because it is truly not, it's the style in which it has been delivered to you: A limited, restrictive environment where Steve Jobs rules supreme.
I do agree about WinMo though, I've never liked it.
And yes, there are many reasons one would want to run more than one application at once. I saw someone say a similar thing on another forum about iphone multitasking, his words were "why would you want to" the question should be "why wouldn't you want to" and the answer is merely because Steve Jobs said it is better.
Say I want to have my xbox live friends list on updating me with notifications when people come online, whilst talking to people on msn/facebook/aim and uploading my latest photos to Picasa, whilst the weather widget grabs the latest weather info I could even launch into a game whilst doing that if I wanted to and surprisingly my phone does not show much difference in performance.
You know what's funny, I watched the iPhone 3GS video, they seemed so proud of all of their new features, like MMS and videos which have been available on almost every phone for years and then features like the compass and cut/copy/paste I thought "ok my G1 can do all that already too".
The 3GS is the first iphone that is truly on par with every other phone manufacturers offerings. The OS is also improving, and what you like about the iphone OS is not that it's better, because it is truly not, it's the style in which it has been delivered to you: A limited, restrictive environment where Steve Jobs rules supreme.
I do agree about WinMo though, I've never liked it.