Poll: iPhone 4 problems thread
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Tried it in a few locations? (Strong EDGE, weak EDGE, strong 3G, weak 3G etc). Tried it with and without WiFi connected?
It's an internmittent non life threatening fault on the iPhone, if you absolutelt have to make the call 999 for instance you can you just have to hold it differently. Faulty brakes on a car which was the origional example I responded to is an issue of an entirely different magnitude it has the potential to kill people not be a little inconvenient.
Yes apple should never have allowed this issue out of the labs but a little perspective is required.
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Okay, this is really bad. This is not isolated at all, i just went to the Appke store in Birmingham to test it out.
I picked up a demo unit, it went from FULL signal with 3G down to 1 bar on edge within 15 seconds. There is another demo unit sitting in a dock with full signal. I picked up the other one (not gripping it at the corner) and it had full signal.
I then tried another demo unit, same thing. At the same time, 2 other guys did the same, all loses signal. In total i tried 3 phones, all affected.
All in the Apple store, in the center of Birmingham.
I am not buying a phone that does that, telling me not to hold it that way is an insult to my intelligence. What if i need to write something down when I got a call? Learn how to write with my left hand? Ridiculous.
I picked up a demo unit, it went from FULL signal with 3G down to 1 bar on edge within 15 seconds. There is another demo unit sitting in a dock with full signal. I picked up the other one (not gripping it at the corner) and it had full signal.
I then tried another demo unit, same thing. At the same time, 2 other guys did the same, all loses signal. In total i tried 3 phones, all affected.
All in the Apple store, in the center of Birmingham.
I am not buying a phone that does that, telling me not to hold it that way is an insult to my intelligence. What if i need to write something down when I got a call? Learn how to write with my left hand? Ridiculous.
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Did you mention anything to the store guys?
I'm tempted to go down (it's only a 10min walk) but part of me thinks that the store guys won't know jack. I'm probably gonna hold off until monday and then if Apple haven't got their arses in gear it's refund time.
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Nope, i went to get lunch from yo! Sushi, on the way out of the Bullring I went back again to test. this time, a chap was talking to an Apple guy in a Blue shirt TESTING his own phone and making a call to the guy in the blue shirt. I heard the convo briefly and he complained that he dropped 5 calls yesterday alone and he lives in the center of Birmingham (which his old 3GS never did). They cuold not make it to loses signal totally so the phone HELD the call, but thats because it had 1 bar left when i tested it.
Still, that is 5bar 3G to 1 bar EDGE.
That is within the Apple Store within the center of Birmingham.
What happens when i am not in Birmingham, Manchester or London? Don't make phone calls ?
Interesting - when using speedtest my download suffers (goes from 800kbs to 16okbs) but my upload speeds (1600kbs vs 1300kbs) remains pretty good even when it says I have 1bar 3G.
Also it doesnt seem that a Bumper actually helps really - you still get signal attenuation
EDIT: Actually my download speed is all over the place compared to my upload speed - unsure if I can trust that speedtest app. Though I guess signal strength doesnt always go hand in hand with download speed...
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Also it doesnt seem that a Bumper actually helps really - you still get signal attenuation
EDIT: Actually my download speed is all over the place compared to my upload speed - unsure if I can trust that speedtest app. Though I guess signal strength doesnt always go hand in hand with download speed...
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Its not just iphone 4's that do this though, lots of phones do the same and nobody ever moaned.
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I've never really trusted them TBH.
I've never heard of another phone that drops calls just because your left handed, care to provide some examples?
The way I see it (and I have 28 years of RF experience) is that one wants to avoid bridging this gap.
So that means moving ones grip by about an inch.
From this:
To this:
I wish I had a 'blown up out of all proportion" smiley face.
So that means moving ones grip by about an inch.
From this:
To this:
I wish I had a 'blown up out of all proportion" smiley face.
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I have never seen it personally, my iPhone 2G doesn't, my N95 didn't.
All I am saying now is that, now that i have witnessed it in person, with 3 phones, that is enough evidence for me not to get it. It is one thing to read it on the internet from message boards, another to read it on the news, but when I can recreate it in person with multiple samples then this is game over.
You can't tell me not to hold it that way (like i said, what if i need to write something down?), or use speaker phone (while walking down the street?), or use a Bumper.
If the Bumper is the solution then it SHOULD be free. They acknowledge the problem, realise there is a solution, why should I pay for that solution?
Name one??
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I wish I had a 'blown up out of all proportion" smiley face.
I wish I have an irony simile face, just look at the signal strength. lol
The way I see it (and I have 28 years of RF experience) is that one wants to avoid bridging this gap.
So that means moving ones grip by about an inch.
From this:
To this:
I wish I had a 'blown up out of all proportion" smiley face.
Why should you have to do that to get it to work properly? It is 2010 for goodness sake. I don't expect to have to hold my phone in a certain way for it to work as expected.
There's no irony there, I've stated many times that my o2 coverage in the house is appalling. There are a handful of places where I get a signal and that's it. If anything, I get a better signal with the iPhone 4 than I did with the 3GS (unless I'm shorting out the aerial, of course 
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I'm right handed but I always hold a phone in my left hand as my hearing is slightly better in my left ear than my right. I don't forsee any problem from this at all.
).What's the date got to do with anything? I'm just demonstrating how I see it, the grip is identical, it's just shifted slightly.
I'm right handed but I always hold a phone in my left hand as my hearing is slightly better in my left ear than my right. I don't forsee any problem from this at all.
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The way I see it (and I have 28 years of RF experience) is that one wants to avoid bridging this gap.
So that means moving ones grip by about an inch.
From this:
To this:
I wish I had a 'blown up out of all proportion" smiley face.
I gave mine to the Information Systems Director here earlier for him to have a play with. Holding it only on the LHS and RHS side (not touching the bottom part) and it still did the issue
....my thoughts entirely
The fact that it has the same effect on the 3G and 3GS and nobody ever noticed says it all.
Because people weren't holding it so tight it could squeeze blood out of a rock with the 3GS, if people hold it as gently as they normally would, I'd be very surprised if they lost signal completely
Squeezing it like you're trying to crush it is hardly a true life test, unless you have serious anger issues when you're on the phone
Squeezing it like you're trying to crush it is hardly a true life test, unless you have serious anger issues when you're on the phone