Poll: iPhone 4 problems thread

What problems are you having with your iPhone 4? (multiple options are allowed)

  • None

    Votes: 98 30.8%

  • Display (generally this is the yellow splodges)

    Votes: 37 11.6%

  • Antenna (poor signals when holding the phone in a certain place)

    Votes: 193 60.7%

  • Other (specify)

    Votes: 38 11.9%
  • Total voters
    318
I had to buy £750 worth of tyres this month, otherwise I would probably have bought one yesterday. Now I think I'll wait and see how this resolves itself (and the O2 tariff issue) before deciding what to do.

I did have a play with one in WestQuay today and they are very nice, so much faster than my 3G at everything. I'm just not sure the extra features are worth £570.
 
I don't know about you guys, but if you are right handed like me, making a call isn't a problem because you aren't shorting the bar.

However, if you are browsing the web or whatever, you'd be holding the phone in your left hand and typing with your right. For me, the bar is in the most awkward place to avoid so I don't think telling people to adjust their grip is really good enough.

If the join was at the top side, where no one would ever be shorting naturally then fair enough. As it is, it's a massive problem that people aren't going out of their way to cause.
 
MrLOL said:
my thoughts entirely

The fact that it has the same effect on the 3G and 3GS and nobody ever noticed says it all.
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I cant believe people are defending this.

Lets make this simple. Its a phone that does not work if you hold it in a certain way. It is indefensible.
 
MrLOL said:
my thoughts entirely

The fact that it has the same effect on the 3G and 3GS and nobody ever noticed says it all.
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You are partly correct, however this would appear to be worse and it is far easier to bring about the problem.

You cannot make excuses for this, you should not expect it from a £600 phone.

As said, what if you need to write something down when on the phone etc and lots of other reasons you may adjust your hand position, causing the call to drop? Laughable.
 
Feek said:
I wish I had a 'blown up out of all proportion" smiley face.[/font]
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Maybe they should have painted a hand outline on it to show people how to hold it correctly, or circled the area in red and labelled it do not touch. I agree it isn't the worlds most significant issue but it is pretty laughable that it has got through testing and into the release model. Surely if they had just placed the gap on oneo of the short sides it would wave resolved the whole problem?

Apple are going to suffer from this at least in the short term and Steve's response is laughably bad PR from a man who is normally th king of the feild!
 
Steedie said:
Because people weren't holding it so tight it could squeeze blood out of a rock with the 3GS, if people hold it as gently as they normally would, I'd be very surprised if they lost signal completely

Squeezing it like you're trying to crush it is hardly a true life test, unless you have serious anger issues when you're on the phone
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I think the difference is that to replicate this problem on a 3GS, you have to go out of your way to squeeze all round it. The same is true on lots of other phones.

The problem with the iPhone 4 is that a natural position of operating the phone causes the signal drop.
 
Robboftw said:
You are partly correct, however this would appear to be worse and it is far easier to bring about the problem.

You cannot make excuses for this, you should not expect it from a £600 phone.

As said, what if you need to write something down when on the phone etc and lots of other reasons you may adjust your hand position, causing the call to drop? Laughable.
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I do not expect this from a £10 throw away PAYG phone.

It is a PHONE, if it doesn't make calls, then it is useless.

btw, i can recreate this with my right hand too, just have to touch the bridging part.
 
This isn't going to affect me at all. I use perhaps ten or twenty minutes talk time per month and if I know that I short out the connections that I'm going to get signal loss, I'll just move my grip slightly. For me the iPhone is a pocket computer/datacomms device first and as a voice telephone second. Yes, it's a little frustrating but it's really not the end of the world.

If I find that it bothers me that much I'll either put it in a case or use a thin layer of transparent tape to prevent my hand from touching that part of the metal surround.
 
Feek said:


If I find that it bothers me that much I'll either put it in a case or use a thin layer of transparent tape to prevent my hand from touching that part of the metal surround.
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I appreciate where you comming from but putting tape on an expensive piece of consumer electronics to make it work like it should is pretty poor stuff isn't it!
 
a1ex2001 said:
I've never heard of another phone that drops calls just because your left handed, care to provide some examples?
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Its not just left handed people that are affected though. I hold the phone in my right hand when making a call and my little finger tip naturally wants to sit on the bottom left hand corner, right over the black gap.
 
Feek said:
This isn't going to affect me at all. I use perhaps ten or twenty minutes talk time per month and if I know that I short out the connections that I'm going to get signal loss, I'll just move my grip slightly
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For me that isn't really the point. Apple has sold you a £600 phone that has to be held in a particular way to make phone calls. It's an ultra-high-end product and there's no way you should even have to think about how you're holding it. It's something you should expect from a Chinese knock-off, not the latest and greatest from Cupertino. I didn't have this problem when I bought a £10 Nokia - why should you have it on the iPhone 4? Now Apple has the temerity to tell you that you're doing something wrong. That isn't something you should accept. The worry is that if too many people just accept this, Apple will get away with it and not change anything.
 
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Feek said:
This isn't going to affect me at all. I use perhaps ten or twenty minutes talk time per month and if I know that I short out the connections that I'm going to get signal loss, I'll just move my grip slightly.
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Maybe that works for you, but most people that have a phone use it primarly as a phone, if they cant recieve texts or calls then it is not fit for purpose.
 
Didn't get an iphone 4 for myself in the end but I've tested two here at work and can't get the signal to drop at all.
 
Feek said:
This isn't going to affect me at all. I use perhaps ten or twenty minutes talk time per month and if I know that I short out the connections that I'm going to get signal loss, I'll just move my grip slightly. For me the iPhone is a pocket computer/datacomms device first and as a voice telephone second. Yes, it's a little frustrating but it's really not the end of the world.

If I find that it bothers me that much I'll either put it in a case or use a thin layer of transparent tape to prevent my hand from touching that part of the metal surround.
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It may not affect you specifically too badly, however, across the board that changes nothing as many people use it for what it is originally intended - as a phone.

As you said yourself, you are 'shorting out' the antenna by picking up the phone and touching various parts of it with your hand. Its nothing short of laughable :(
 
read here about iphone everything let me tell one thing, if u don't want to buy than just don't buy, for example i pre ordered min will be delivered for 15 July, also it has 1 year guarantee also i bought perfect case for it cause i always use cases.... stop moaring

if u want phone for just call than u can buy it for 30 pounds.
 
Feek said:
This isn't going to affect me at all. I use perhaps ten or twenty minutes talk time per month and if I know that I short out the connections that I'm going to get signal loss, I'll just move my grip slightly. For me the iPhone is a pocket computer/datacomms device first and as a voice telephone second. Yes, it's a little frustrating but it's really not the end of the world.

If I find that it bothers me that much I'll either put it in a case or use a thin layer of transparent tape to prevent my hand from touching that part of the metal surround.
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Would you walk into an Apple shop and ask for a replacement if this problem were fixed in the next batch.
 
cymatty said:
Maybe that works for you, but most people that have a phone use it primarly as a phone, if they cant recieve texts or calls then it is not fit for purpose.
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I'd agree with you about other devices, but not the iPhone, I really don't think that for most people the primary use for an iPhone is making/receiving calls at all.

And how does this problem stop you receiving calls or texts? Do you keep the phone in your hands all the time? If it's in your pocket, or on a desk or anywhere else then it's not going to suffer and will still receive calls/texts just as well as before.
 
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