iPhone... It's been unlocked

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Basically what Apple is saying is that they won't intentially break third party apps,
BUT they won't go out of their way to make official updates work with third party apps. Hence if updates breaks them, its not Apples responsibilty.
 
electric ant said:
Basically what Apple is saying is that they won't intentially break third party apps,
BUT they won't go out of their way to make official updates work with third party apps. Hence if updates breaks them, its not Apples responsibilty.
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I'm sorry but that is a naive interpretation. Apple is saying that they will go out of their way to retain the integrity of their product and that means 'deliberately' breaking any third party addons or cracks. It's called public relations - they aren't going to come out and say "we're gonna smash you program punk" but they have said "software updates will most likely break". How do you misinterpret that?
 
As far as my understanding goes (the same one Electric Ant posted), Woz said that they were going to keep rolling out software updates to iPhones; hacked or not..

If these said updates break any 3rd party apps (including the unlocks) by accident then Apple won't mind, but they won't be going out of their way to make sure that happens.
 
And interpreting "most likely break" to mean "will deliberately mess up your iPhone if you've hacked it" is a naive interpretation too. Apple aren't in the business of annoying their customers.
 
Caged said:
And interpreting "most likely break" to mean "will deliberately mess up your iPhone if you've hacked it" is a naive interpretation too. Apple aren't in the business of annoying their customers.
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You think? I don't think they will 'mess up my phone' more that they will protect their intellectual property and retain the Apple produced operating environment that they initially intended.

Apple are in the business of protecting their business and if that means stomping all over 'unauthorised 3rd party applications' I doubt that they are above it.
 
You need to go read the interview again :confused:

They've clearly stated they won't intentionally break the apps, but they won't be bothered if it happens.

We'll soon see when the next iPhone update is rolled out.
 
Yes and no.

To me that suggests that they might not initially break any apps, but over time that chance is going to increase as they change more and more code for the updates :)
 
I hate it when I am right (and have a good opportunity to be sickeningly smug)

From: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/apple/ip...ctivation-limbo-updated-with-video-304497.php

Gizmodo said:
iPhone Firmware 1.1.1 Out and Tested: Breaks 3rd-party Apps, Relocks iPhones and Sends Them to Semi-Brick Activation Limbo (Updated with video)

Just released, ready in your iTunes. This update includes the iTunes Wireless Store, but if you have an unlocked iPhone, be aware that this firmware may make your iPhone unusable. After several hours of testing in house and with the iPhone Dev team, here is the summary of what it does:

• The update will work ok in iPhones with no modification.
• The update will work ok in iPhones with Installer.app (although it gets wiped out; the apps seem to remain in the iPhone, but they won't appear in your screen).
• The update will work ok in unlocked iPhones, but it will return your iPhone to the activation screen. From there, no activation is possible. The iPhone doesn't get bricked but —as expected— so if you want to keep using it, don't update your iPhone.
• This has been confirmed with both anySIM and iPhone Sim Free.
• "Third-party applications won't work after the update" (confirmed by Dev Team.)
• "Firmware 1.1.1. relocks iPhone properly" (confirmed by Dev Team.)
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the update screws it over already? apple can kiss it if they think im buying one now, and have to be tied to a UK network provider. we always get screwed over here in guernsey by apple. first, we cant even order from their website to be shipped here, and now the iphone isn't even being released here. *sigh* :(


i guess i could get the phone, unlock it, and not update it, would we be missing out on many added features though.
 
wush said:
The added features aren't that compelling. Anyway.. don't worry, I'm sure the updated firmwares will be modified for use with unlocked phones given time.
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Would you bet on that?

I guess it depends on how badly you need a working phone really. If all you want to do is carry around a piece of objet d'art then you might as well buy an iPod Touch - same UI, same form factor (near enough). If you actually need a phone day-to-day, and need to be able to txt etc then are you really going to be happy to have to wait an indeterminate amount of time (or possibly forever) for a firmware update to be cracked?

What happens if/when they add MMS in 1.1.2 which also bricks phones? I'd be pretty annoyed having a phone thats lacking in functionality that is available via an update.
 
Durzel said:
Would you bet on that?

I guess it depends on how badly you need a working phone really. If all you want to do is carry around a piece of objet d'art then you might as well buy an iPod Touch - same UI, same form factor (near enough). If you actually need a phone day-to-day, and need to be able to txt etc then are you really going to be happy to have to wait an indeterminate amount of time (or possibly forever) for a firmware update to be cracked?

What happens if/when they add MMS in 1.1.2 which also bricks phones? I'd be pretty annoyed having a phone thats lacking in functionality that is available via an update.
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Agreed. I don't 'need' and iPhone nearly enough to bow down to all the control freak activity that Apple is exhibiting. I am willing to bet that the contract with AT&T in the states and O2 here are on a limited time span and the hardware will eventually be available on most networks.

IMO anyone is better off waiting for the technology to mature a bit - i.e. 12 months at least.
 
SteveOBHave said:
Agreed. I don't 'need' and iPhone nearly enough to bow down to all the control freak activity that Apple is exhibiting. I am willing to bet that the contract with AT&T in the states and O2 here are on a limited time span and the hardware will eventually be available on most networks.

IMO anyone is better off waiting for the technology to mature a bit - i.e. 12 months at least.
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They're tied in for a 5 year contract, unless there's some clause in there that would mean Apple could sneak out (doubtful, but not improbable).

I'm betting anyone who suggests on waiting is secretly wanting 3G, as the current design has been in labs and design stages for a good number of years and is pretty decent for a companies' first venture in to the phone industry.
 
Durzel said:
Would you bet on that?

I guess it depends on how badly you need a working phone really. If all you want to do is carry around a piece of objet d'art then you might as well buy an iPod Touch - same UI, same form factor (near enough). If you actually need a phone day-to-day, and need to be able to txt etc then are you really going to be happy to have to wait an indeterminate amount of time (or possibly forever) for a firmware update to be cracked?
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But it is a fully functioning phone not 'objet d'art '. The updates are optional.

Durzel said:
What happens if/when they add MMS in 1.1.2 which also bricks phones? I'd be pretty annoyed having a phone thats lacking in functionality that is available via an update.
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3rd party apps provide more than the apple updates and are updated more regularly! MMS pah.. prefer email.
 
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