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Soldato
Apple may get 4 years of updates but as every year goes by it will get slower and slower. I remember my iPhone 4 days, it was virtually unusable by time I made the switch to Android. I'd never by an Apple product again.
Like what has already been said, they are targeted at a market who must have Apple or Samsung.
Like what has already been said, they are targeted at a market who must have Apple or Samsung.
Soldato
Wow, looks like I missed the argument. I wont start it up again, but believe I lean towards @Raymond Lin side of things.
Having said that, my opinion so far, if it was an Android device you'd be paying no more than £180 to £230 for it. I think Apple are smart to come down to this market though, yes, they will sell loads, a bit like how popular the Pixel 3a is.
Having said that, my opinion so far, if it was an Android device you'd be paying no more than £180 to £230 for it. I think Apple are smart to come down to this market though, yes, they will sell loads, a bit like how popular the Pixel 3a is.
Caporegime
narh, you won’t find a snap dragon 865 in a £180 phone!
Caporegime
that was before, it’s cheap changed now, to do with the battery.
Soldato
Yup, the K20 Pro had the equivalent (SD855 was the latest at the time) and was less than £300. The screen on the K20 Pro is way better, hence a lower quote on the SE.
Caporegime
each of them had a compromise, that had no wireless charging and IP rating. The SE uses an old shell and screen.
I totally agree Raymond. I sell phones and have sold quite a few of the new SE last week. My customers couldn’t care one jot what’s in the phone but when I tell them it’s just been released, looks like their current phone and has a good camera for £400, I don’t have to say anymore.
One of my customers called me yesterday, she had broken her iPhone 7 and wanted a new phone. Money is not an issue for her, she owns a large firm and has a kit fund with my business for new phones. I explained the options, emailed her links to all the phones but she chose a red 128Gb SE. It’s a great choice for her and I’m glad it’s one Apple offers.
Another of my customers has 400 iPhones and we have up until now been sourcing iPhone 8’s as they don’t want to stretch to XR’s so again this is perfect.
This SE has a perfect place in the market. Cheap apple. They had to make some sacrifices to make it this price. People don't always want the latest and greatest. It does the job well. I'm an Android guy but was an apple guy. I hold nothing against either. Seeing the prices of 2nd hand androids is sucking on comparison plus androids aren't normal supported as long.
in my opinion the SE is a cracking phone for £400 and apple are going to have no problem shifting tons of them.
in my opinion the SE is a cracking phone for £400 and apple are going to have no problem shifting tons of them.
I would go so far as to say that. I bet the margins on the SE are huge as a percentage of the asking price. The SE will stir up the market but Apple could have easily fit a full HD OLED into the SE and still made a healthy percentage. The reason they didn't is because, like the vanilla 11, they need to keep their halo Pro models distinct from the pleb models.
Caporegime
Putting OLED into the SE would require getting a new OLED into the phone, which require tooling and research and also buying that frmo Samsung.
the IPS LCD in there now is old existing tech, no need tooling, much cheaper to buy and allow them to hit this £399 price point. They probably could put in OLED, but no doubt to keep the same profit margin, the phone will cost more.
Soldato
Some people never consider that. They just want Apple to make less or no profit margin.
Soldato
What's the screen from? The iPhone 8, like the body? Was it the internals (CPU & GPU) of the 11 and where is the camera from? (Just want to get all my facts in order 
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I’m really not sure what people want from a phone any more. Apple know they don’t have to invent for people to buy their products.
Screen - iPhone 8What's the screen from? The iPhone 8, like the body? Was it the internals (CPU & GPU) of the 11 and where is the camera from? (Just want to get all my facts in order
CPU gpu - iphone 11
Camera - hybrid xr/ 8 (iirc)
I responded to the statement that apple had made compromises to hit a £419 price point, which is unlikely in the case of the SE. And businesses are flexible with their profit margins all the time. The suggestion apple would make "no profit margin" was your exaggeration.
Soldato
Cool, thanks.
Caporegime
This phone also have wireless charging IP67, and NFC.
It is a solid phone, it runs the latest iOS and will do for years to come. With lower pixel count, the power to weight ratio is the biggest on the market meaning it is the most powerful phone on the market.
It is a solid phone, it runs the latest iOS and will do for years to come. With lower pixel count, the power to weight ratio is the biggest on the market meaning it is the most powerful phone on the market.