iphone!?

fdxd · 10 Jan 2007 at 00:37

N95 has HSDPA too. So you get pretty fast speeds on that. Faster than average UK broadband but imagine there wont be much coverage for the speed outside major cities. Its out pretty soon sim free.

Iphone looks great but Apple are taking the **** with the launch date. :mad:

Nokia are already putting in GPS, GPU and 5MP cameras with future phones. One thing they need to do most is improve is style. Iphone oozes style even if touch screens arent as efficient as one hand.

leaskovski · 10 Jan 2007 at 08:43

Tunney said:
I'd be worried if I was HTC though. They're both niche players in the touchscreen market.

The only reason i would be worried if i was HTC is because that device looks sexier. The specs are the same as the TyTN. I mean there isn't even 3G on this thing....

So.. the deets! Official Tech Specs (taken from Modaco)
Screen size: 3.5 inches
Screen resolution: 320 by 480 at 160 ppi
Input method: Multi-touch
Operating system: OS X
Storage: 4GB or 8GB
Radio: GSM Quad-band (MHz: 850, 900, 1800, 1900) + EDGE
Wireless: Wi-Fi (802.11b/g) + Bluetooth 2.0
Camera: 2.0 megapixels
Battery: Up to 5 hours Talk / Video / Browsing, up to 16 hours Audio playback
Dimensions: 4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches / 115 x 61 x 11.6mm
Weight: 4.8 ounces / 135 grams

Hellsmk2 · 10 Jan 2007 at 09:01

garyh said:
It wont sell to the generally public in my opinion, they don't by large like touch screens (fear of turning the handset on / off by accident during a call etc) and they certainly don't like large PDAs.

I've been in the industry long enough to know this will almost certainly be a flop to the masses, and will probably go en-route to the same slow death as the N91.. It does look rather neat though from a geeks perspective - I bet its rather expensive (£100 on new tariffs £30+?)

I'll bet all my toes that this phone will be a massive success. I've never seen a phone garner this much attention. Ever.

It looks awesome and from the demo's, seems awesome. Running on Mac OSX is a mighty mighty little feat.

Tomsk · 10 Jan 2007 at 09:01

There's also the Linux Phone

krooton · 10 Jan 2007 at 09:24

Tomsk said:
There's also the Linux Phone

fugly!

titchard · 10 Jan 2007 at 09:26

clv101 said:
Yeah but Apple don't know jack about making phones - they'll have a third party on board.

They have had 2 and a 1/2 years research into this area they say - i'm sure they know a thing or two after that.

Rich

titchard · 10 Jan 2007 at 09:27

Spamalot said:
No 3G, lol. In this day and age whats the point!

So they can use a more established network?

And the fact that there will be a 3G version in the future?

Rich

uvarvu · 10 Jan 2007 at 09:28

Hellsmk2 said:
I'll bet all my toes that this phone will be a massive success. I've never seen a phone garner this much attention. Ever.

It looks awesome and from the demo's, seems awesome. Running on Mac OSX is a mighty mighty little feat.

Agreed. Everything else out at the moment immediately looks dated when placed next to this.
Someone mentioned that when october arrives this phone will be out of date. Software updates will see to that not to mention software that third parties will write.

clv101 · 10 Jan 2007 at 09:45

titchard said:
They have had 2 and a 1/2 years research into this area they say - i'm sure they know a thing or two after that.

Rich

Naw - you don't learn how to make a phone in 2 years which is why they have got Foxconn on board.

leaskovski · 10 Jan 2007 at 09:48

Nahema said:
Agreed. Everything else out at the moment immediately looks dated when placed next to this.
Someone mentioned that when october arrives this phone will be out of date. Software updates will see to that not to mention software that third parties will write.

Hate to give you some bad news but....

macintouch on iPhone said:
Apple representatives said it is a "closed platform"

krooton · 10 Jan 2007 at 09:52

leaskovski said:
Hate to give you some bad news but....

Ouch, that's me out then, I'll have a sniff at whatever HTC has milling around at the time

ben_j_davis · 10 Jan 2007 at 10:09

This is bound to be the must have chav product for 2007. Everyone is going to want one of these and everyone will get one of these. YAWN

titchard · 10 Jan 2007 at 10:12

clv101 said:
Naw - you don't learn how to make a phone in 2 years which is why they have got Foxconn on board.

Right, thats why in the keynote he said 2 1/2 years of research went into it...

Rich

clv101 · 10 Jan 2007 at 10:25

titchard said:
Right, thats why in the keynote he said 2 1/2 years of research went into it...

Rich

Oh yeah I'm sure it did... but that doesn't mean Apple worked out how to make a phone - I mean they worked with a partner who did know how to make a phone. I suspect the Apple inputs are limited to OS, Apps, UI and ergonomics, that's more than enough to have kept them busy. The actual phone, the radio engineering will be been developed by a phone company... like Foxconn.

GuruJockStrap · 10 Jan 2007 at 11:06

Pity Apple won't allow you to install 3rd party apps onto it like a proper smartphone. iphone + TomTom would be superb, especially with that screen.

No 3G or HSDPA is a let down. No doubt a version supporting it will follow in the future.

I've got the Vario II and if I'm a home and browse a few sites, I'll opt for the HSDPA connection even though I have a wireless network at home. Reasons?

1. I only pay £7.50 for unlimited data anyway.

2. Battery. If I browse with Wi Fi I can literally watch the battery metre tumble. I find 3G/HSDPA much better.

roakes · 10 Jan 2007 at 11:12

Thing is this thing wont be out in Europe til Q4 and I'm quite sure by that time Nokia, HTC etc. will have something to rival it with a more impressive spec.

Christo · 10 Jan 2007 at 11:47

roakes said:
Thing is this thing wont be out in Europe til Q4 and I'm quite sure by that time Nokia, HTC etc. will have something to rival it with a more impressive spec.

Most of you guys just dont get it at all. Most features that iphone is offering are new at all but its the ease of use and just sexiness that makes it so far ahead of other phones.

I mean how can people compare it to TyTN, how ridiculous is that? The TyTN is hard to use, sluggish, terrible touchscreen etc.

The N95 or (at a stretch the) p990i are the closest rivals to it - the N95 has a pretty good UI actually, however I am concered about buggy software and the p990i - fugly, brickish and buggy.

I just it makes Nokia and SE pull their fingers out, first step sort out the OS's Get rid of the bugginess and make it simple...fast.

ps apple have mentioned that between its release in Europe it may even have a 3g model ready.

tom_nieto · 10 Jan 2007 at 11:48

This phone will sell to the masses simply because it's got an ipod in it. It'll be similar to a blackberry in terms of business useability, although lagging behind some of the best smart phones for office applications. I think businessmen will buy them as they look a lot sleeker then blackberrys.

I can't wait to have one of these phones.

TheVoice · 10 Jan 2007 at 13:54

tom_nieto said:
This phone will sell to the masses simply because it's got an ipod in it. It'll be similar to a blackberry in terms of business useability, although lagging behind some of the best smart phones for office applications. I think businessmen will buy them as they look a lot sleeker then blackberrys.

I can't wait to have one of these phones.

I don't see it selling to the masses myself, purely because of cost. It's inevitably going to be an expensive unit, so it'll only be available on higher-end contracts, unless you're willing to pay extra for it. Aside from people that are in the market for a Smartphone-type unit already (and I'm not sure how competitive it'll be in this field if it's on a closed-platform), I don't see it appealing to the lower-end of the market, even with the iPod functionality. I'd rather have a nice 'free' phone on a reasonably-priced contract, and an iPod Nano. Which is what I've got.

Saying it runs OSX seems a bit of a stretch too (although I don't doubt it has OSX elements). Looks as much like OSX as the Ipod interface does, really.

Wicksta · 10 Jan 2007 at 15:33

No 3G, no expandable memory, no FM radio, no thanks.

Think I'll wait for the 2nd generation one.