iphone!?

Christo · 10 Jan 2007 at 18:09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvMasa9gfEc

Christo · 10 Jan 2007 at 18:10

Wicksta said:
No 3G, no expandable memory, no FM radio, no thanks.

Think I'll wait for the 2nd generation one.

no 3g..well Jobs actually announced that they may be addressing this before it get to Europe

And FM?! Haha when you have an ipod? Come on..

Wicksta · 10 Jan 2007 at 18:18

Chrisp7 said:
no 3g..well Jobs actually announced that they may be addressing this before it get to Europe

And FM?! Haha when you have an ipod? Come on..

There is far more to listening to radio than listening to music on it (which I never do). I like listening to sport and talk radio when on the train especially going up to or coming back from football games. Just because FM isn't a priority for you doesn't mean it isn't to me.

PureAppleJuice · 10 Jan 2007 at 18:23

Wicksta said:
There is far more to listening to radio than listening to music on it (which I never do). I like listening to sport and talk radio when on the train especially going up to or coming back from football games. Just because FM isn't a priority for you doesn't mean it isn't to me.

You're probably in the minority then. Also if you really had to you could probably access radio via WiFi, or by means of the internet.

I think it will be a success. It certainly pushes some pioneering ideas. A phone has never had this much coverage at all. Even if it is crap, it'll certainly sell a lot before people realise that!

clv101 · 10 Jan 2007 at 18:24

Chrisp7 said:
no 3g..well Jobs actually announced that they may be addressing this before it get to Europe

And FM?! Haha when you have an ipod? Come on..

I listen to 20 minutes of Radio 4 every morning and evening as I walk to work - in fact I listen to far more radio on my MP3 player than MP3s. I wouldn't buy an MP3 player without FM and I'm annoyed my phone (Treo 650) doesn't have FM.

Wicksta · 10 Jan 2007 at 18:28

jidh007 said:
You're probably in the minority then. Also if you really had to you could probably access radio via WiFi, or by means of the internet.

WiFi generally doesn't work that well on a train unless you've pulled up outside someone's house who has an open access point.

Internet, well I could do but there is the hassle of setting it up and having a stable connection good enough for streaming on a train journey. Then there is the cost of data.

I'm not saying it won't be a success, not at all, just that FM is high up on the priority list to me and probably some others.

benjo plz. · 10 Jan 2007 at 18:30

Wicksta said:
WiFi generally doesn't work that well on a train

Unless you're on a virgin or GNER train

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Christo · 10 Jan 2007 at 18:32

clv101 said:
I listen to 20 minutes of Radio 4 every morning and evening as I walk to work - in fact I listen to far more radio on my MP3 player than MP3s. I wouldn't buy an MP3 player without FM and I'm annoyed my phone (Treo 650) doesn't have FM.

Well personally and obviously for the majority (otherwise apple would have put one in) its not a priority. Why not just buy a mini £2 radio..

Wicksta · 10 Jan 2007 at 18:39

Phnom_Penh said:
Unless you're on a virgin or GNER train .

Never unfortunately.

First Great Western to Paddington then the tube for me, but who knows what they will do in the future.

PureAppleJuice · 10 Jan 2007 at 18:58

Wicksta said:
WiFi generally doesn't work that well on a train unless you've pulled up outside someone's house who has an open access point. Internet, well I could do but there is the hassle of setting it up and having a stable connection good enough for streaming on a train journey. Then there is the cost of data.

I'm not saying it won't be a success, not at all, just that FM is high up on the priority list to me and probably some others.

Ahh fair enough. You say hassle of setting up the internet; but at the end of the day you wouln't really buy an iPhone if you didn't go ahead with the 'hassle' of setting it up anyway

Yeah I listen to a fair bit of radio too actually, but not fussed if I have it on the move.

benjo plz. · 10 Jan 2007 at 19:17

Wicksta said:
Never unfortunately. First Great Western to Paddington then the tube for me.

Same lol.

mrochester · 10 Jan 2007 at 19:22

I think the iPhone looks great, but I wouldn't buy one simply because it lacks a keypad. I think you need tactile feedback to make something easy and comfortable to use, and with only touchscreen controls, the iPhone lacks this completely. I'm a fast texter, and trying to type using a touchscreen would infuriate me no end.

PureAppleJuice · 10 Jan 2007 at 19:28

Depends how sensitive it is, and if it will use a qwerty keyboard or not.

Elrein · 10 Jan 2007 at 19:37

I hope it really takes off, all other current phones are pretty much monkey poo at the moment. Lets shake it up

Id be interested in battery life? All that bling has gotta suck some juice for sure?

[DOD]Asprilla · 10 Jan 2007 at 20:50

Lack of 3G, radio, closed platform and the fact the I don't trust Apple batteries are the things that would hold me back from getting one.

I've just got a w950i and I can't see anything this phone would offer over that, and the SE will be a year old by the it arrives.

It's still going to sell by the bucket load though, just because it's Apple.

Hope the screen doesn't scratch like the nano.....

Verbium · 10 Jan 2007 at 20:52

Really can't see the point of this phone, yes it'll have the nice Mac OS on it but so many people don't like it. The same way people don't like motorola, the phone will be so out of date by the time it releases. Even clearance handsets will be a better choice than this phone when its released. If they're launching later on in the year they need at least a 5mp camera to go along with it.

The memory is impressive, but again phones are on their way to getting that kind of memory on their own. Walkman is also a very estiblished brand in the mobile market now too and its what average joe wants when listening to music.

Christo · 10 Jan 2007 at 21:58

Elrein said:
I hope it really takes off, all other current phones are pretty much monkey poo at the moment. Lets shake it up

Id be interested in battery life? All that bling has gotta suck some juice for sure?

5 hours talk time, video playback and internet browsing
16 hours music playback

mrochester said:
I think the iPhone looks great, but I wouldn't buy one simply because it lacks a keypad. I think you need tactile feedback to make something easy and comfortable to use, and with only touchscreen controls, the iPhone lacks this completely. I'm a fast texter, and trying to type using a touchscreen would infuriate me no end.

Check out the vid I posted on the top of this page, it shows you the 'keypad', it looks pretty responsive and quick actually, it comes with error correction too. :cool:

[DOD]Asprilla · 10 Jan 2007 at 22:09

Chrisp7 said:
5 hours talk time
16 hours music playback

So they say but ipods are notorious for poor battery life, especially when compared to the stated figures.

mrochester · 10 Jan 2007 at 22:10

Check out the vid I posted on the top of this page, it shows you the 'keypad', it looks pretty responsive and quick actually, it comes with error correction too.

That doesn't prevent it from having no tactile feedback though. If I'm pressing a button, I like to feel that I'm actually pressing a button, i.e, some movement, and a click sound.

Christo · 10 Jan 2007 at 22:25

[DOD]Asprilla said:
So they say but ipods are notorious for poor battery life, especially when compared to the stated figures.

The ipods up to 3g didnt have the best battery life, after that they improved and often beat the stated figures. My 5g lasts very reasonably.

mrochester said:
That doesn't prevent it from having no tactile feedback though. If I'm pressing a button, I like to feel that I'm actually pressing a button, i.e, some movement, and a click sound.

From a review site:

"Typing is difficult. The letter keys are just pictures on the glass screen, so of course there’s no tactile feedback.

Software helps a lot. You can afford to make a lot of typos as you muddle through a word, because the software analyzes which keys you *might* have meant and figures out the word you wanted. Its best guess appears just under what you’ve typed; if it’s correct, you tap the Space bar to accept it and continue. I typed a couple of e-mail messages with lots of typos but eventually 100 percent accuracy, thanks to this auto-correct feature. (My testing didn’t involve proper names, however.)"