iphone!?

Fairly impressive pitch from Steve Jobs however, my SE K800i accesses the Net without much problem, receives RSS feeds, can view Google Maps (inc satellite imagery), plays music (not that I use it for that), plays videos, allows video conferencing, has a 3.2MP camera and receives and sends POP3 email. Okay OS is not as flash as Apple's however, have to ask the question what part of the market is the iPhone really hoping to capture.

My 8Gb NANO (same storage capacity as largest iPhone) is currently full with 1406 MP3 tracks. Sounds a lot, and it is, but once you start using up the iPhone memory for music, video, photos, contacts, email etc you are soon going to run out of storage space. Therefore can't see this really replacing the current video iPods if you want to travel with a large amount of media in your pocket.
 
surely the apple phone would succeed more than the nokia N series flop you mentioned, not just for its real use and functions, but just due to it being "cool" like a lot of mac products have been in the past and are becoming.
From a geeks POV i think its going to be extremely good from whats been said and it looks really nice, but to joe public, it has big screen that joe McChavson can prod with his greasy fingers and bright colours he can show off to his mates.
It could also appeal to the new "ipod generation" where apple / anything white is cool, so i can see it really working well in the phone market!
 
Providers will HAVE to lower data rates if they want anyone to use this... Getting one on O2 would be suicide, and the "good" rates aren't that much better...
 
El Gringo said:
Providers will HAVE to lower data rates if they want anyone to use this... Getting one on O2 would be suicide, and the "good" rates aren't that much better...
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T-Mobile do a 3G Xtype which is £10 a month for unlimited use, but the iPhone doesn't have 3G lol.
 
Im assuming that most of the downloading will take place using the on-board wifi, not via the telecommunication networks which, as you say, have an incredibly high cost per bit.
 
Maybe a mainstream device like this will push all the networks to cut the costs of data. T-mobile offer very reasonable prices for 3g data, but for me its a non-starter as the coverage is woeful round where I live. Hence i get royally shafted by vodafones charges.

Pity it doesn't have 3g, as i'd imagine by december 3g will becoming even more standard, and high-end devices will all be using HDSPA
 
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Yeah but Apple don't know jack about making phones - they'll have a third party on board.
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That's precisely why they won't have anyone else on board. Look what happened when they used motorola...

This so head and shoulders over everything out there at present, and apple is doing what they are good at. Looking at a market making something good and sticking a great UI on it. Some of the phone manufacturers couldn't tell good UI from their backsides.

This will force SE and nokia et all, to pull their fingers out.

And to the person who said people fear touchscreens lol.

This will be a big hit purely because its an ipod, as long as they can get it with the right provider in the uk and maybe an 18month contract.
 
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That's precisely why they won't have anyone else on board. Look what happened when they used motorola...
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Phone are pretty complicated they can't make one themselves - there will be a Chinese, Korean or Taiwanese OEM behind it.
 
believe it or not its foxconn.

mind you foxconn make all manner of stuff you wouldn't think they did, they're huge.

I'm in the industry and I've seen this design knocking around for a month or so as the LG Prada phone so maybe LG had a hand in it too?

I think it looks and sounds incredible, I don't see it being a massive seller purely due to the fact its a touch screen pda smartphone type arrangement but it'll be interesting when you stack it up against nanos if you're looking for a new phone at the same time..

bluetooth, wifi, touch screen, internet browsing, 8gb smartphone.. free on the right contract..

or a nano.

no contest imo.. it will certainly shake things up a bit if only down to the fact that at last we have another half decent manufacturer (despite the fact they don't manufacture it)

All I see here is another serious challenge to nokias domination, 10 years I've been in telecoms, the end of last year I see they lost their no.1 spot in the uk.. now this.. not good for them IMO.
 
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OMG its an apple iphone i think im going to cream my pants. Cha right, and monkies might fly out of my butt! :p

Looking forward to my HTC device with built in projector in 2008.

I just fail to see why this will shake things up when its already been done!? :confused:
 
El Gringo said:
Providers will HAVE to lower data rates if they want anyone to use this... Getting one on O2 would be suicide, and the "good" rates aren't that much better...
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It has Wifi to get around this.

Does anyone think apple will have a problem getting the mobile network providers to push it to users? Wifi would allow you to use voip, messenger services and do web browsing whenever you are in a Wifi hotspot (and there are ever more out there), all without having to pay your network provider (O2,Orange etc etc) a thing.
 
It's more of where to get WiFi access. At the moment, it isn't prevelant enough (Certainly for free) to make it even remotely useful "on the move", and when stationary in a WiFi zone, 3G offers more than adequate browsing speed, and with HSDPA, will even offer good rates for large file downloads :)
 
Jobs has certainly hyped it up well and I'm very interested to try one.

However, manufacturers have released fully touch screen devices before and they've been very awkward to use. Without any tacticle feel, using a device can be very fiddly.

Roll on Q4. :)

All I see here is another serious challenge to nokias domination, 10 years I've been in telecoms, the end of last year I see they lost their no.1 spot in the uk.. now this.. not good for them IMO.
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The N95s of this world may grab the headlines, but Nokia make their real money in the budget end of the market. I don't think a $599 (on a 2 year contract) device isn't going to worry them much.

I'd be worried if I was HTC though. They're both niche players in the touchscreen market.
 
Lagz said:
Does anyone think apple will have a problem getting the mobile network providers to push it to users? Wifi would allow you to use voip, messenger services and do web browsing whenever you are in a Wifi hotspot (and there are ever more out there), all without having to pay your network provider (O2,Orange etc etc) a thing.
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There are plenty of WiFi devices out there - the operators can't hold that tide back. The only thing the operators will care about is how much of a subsidy Apple expects the operators to fork out.
 
N95 has HSDPA too. So you get pretty fast speeds on that. Faster than average UK broadband but imagine there wont be much coverage for the speed outside major cities. Its out pretty soon sim free.

Iphone looks great but Apple are taking the **** with the launch date. :mad: Nokia are already putting in GPS, GPU and 5MP cameras with future phones. One thing they need to do most is improve is style. Iphone oozes style even if touch screens arent as efficient as one hand.
 
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