IPStream Max launch official - 31st March (including BT Broadband upgrade)

CurlyWhirly · 4 Mar 2006 at 11:32

tolien said:
Would make sense to get one now and know for sure.

I don't see how as if I am not going to benefit speed wise then what's the point?

tolien said:
Of course it will.

At least I know that I won't have to spend money if I don't have to.

tolien said:
That said, you shouldn't be forced on to IPStream Max if you don't want to.

So you have a choice then?
I think that if I was able to get 1.5 Mb then I would upgrade to the (up to) 2 Mb service.
It would only be another £5 a month (or £1.25 a week) so it isn't really going to break the bank.

CurlyWhirly · 4 Mar 2006 at 11:33

Mook said:
AFAIK the best one AOL supports is the Netgear DG834.

Thanks Mook.
I will Google it to find more info and pricing, etc.

tolien · 4 Mar 2006 at 11:35

CurlyWhirly said:
I don't see how as if I am not going to benefit speed wise then what's the point?

You know if you are or aren't?
An ISP with a clue could extract attenuation and SNR margin from Whoosh. But that's probably a bit too advanced for AOL support.

So you have a choice then?

Erm, yes. The current home500-2000 aren't going anywhere. It's just if AOL decide to mass upgrade everyone.

Dredd · 4 Mar 2006 at 11:36

Statistics Downstream Upstream
Line Rate 2272 288
Noise Margin 29.7 dB 27.0 dB
Line Attenuation 8.5 dB 6.0 dB
Output Power 11.9 dBm 9.3 dBm

will i be ok, i should be right ?

tolien · 4 Mar 2006 at 11:37

Yes. Instead of asking, how about using this (also in the FAQ, if you read it).
It's going to be as accurate as anyone can guess at anyway.

CurlyWhirly · 4 Mar 2006 at 11:41

tolien said:
You know if you are or aren't?

So by buying a router and finding out your line stats then you have a much better idea of what sort of speed you can get then.
Crystal clear now

tolien said:
The current home 500-2000 aren't going anywhere. It's just if AOL decide to mass upgrade everyone.

I thought this process was automatic with ISP's?
Perhaps you have to ask them to put you on Max DSL when it's launched then?

tolien · 4 Mar 2006 at 11:43

CurlyWhirly said:
So by buying a router and finding out your line stats then you have a much better idea of what sort of speed you can get then.

Yes. That was the whole point.

I thought this process was automatic with ISP's?

Er, yes and no. BT aren't moving anyone, the ISPs have to order it.

You can ask to be regraded, and there'll be a bulk regrade scheme (a la last year's up to 2Mbps farce).
But as last year, don't expect to be on IPStream Max too soon if you wait for the bulk upgrade.

CurlyWhirly · 4 Mar 2006 at 11:48

tolien said:
But as last year, don't expect to be on IPStream Max too soon if you wait for the bulk upgrade.

I have some hope though as I am coming to the end of my 12 month contract in April, so I expect they will try and keep me and what better way then keeping me happy with a Max DSL upgrade

OllyM · 4 Mar 2006 at 11:58

CurlyWhirly said:
p.s. perhaps Max DSL will work with a USB modem anyway, I'm not sure

It will, but Zen staff have stated that they had lots of problems on the trial with USB modems. The main problem is that people can't seem to get more than 4mbit through them under normal conditions.

9761 · 4 Mar 2006 at 12:06

tolien said:
Yes. Instead of asking, how about using this (also in the FAQ, if you read it).
It's going to be as accurate as anyone can guess at anyway.

on that checker they reckon I could get 8192kbps?
when I do checker thing for bt and samknows and also a few others I can only get 1mb

tolien · 4 Mar 2006 at 12:11

9761 said:
when I do checker thing for bt and samknows and also a few others I can only get 1mb

Samknows and "a few others" will still be using the BT database, which is still guessing mostly based on the current prequalification rules...

I expect they will try and keep me and what better way then keeping me happy with a Max DSL upgrade

I'm sure BT will really care...

CurlyWhirly · 4 Mar 2006 at 13:04

OllyM said:
It will, but Zen staff have stated that they had lots of problems on the trial with USB modems. The main problem is that people can't seem to get more than 4mbit through them under normal conditions.

That shouldn't be a problem for me as I doubt whether my line will be able to get 4 Mbit anyway!

I am probably going to go ahead with the purchase of a router as it sounds like a good idea.

Amp34 · 4 Mar 2006 at 14:21

Anyone know what BT retail are doing with MAXdsl? Are they going to be upgrading people as well?

OllyM · 4 Mar 2006 at 14:22

Amp34 said:
Anyone know what BT retail are doing with MAXdsl? Are they going to be upgrading people as well?

http://www.adslguide.org.uk/newsarchive.asp?item=2577

Amp34 · 4 Mar 2006 at 14:26

OllyM said:
http://www.adslguide.org.uk/newsarchive.asp?item=2577

Thanks, now i just need to persuade the parents.

Baddass · 5 Mar 2006 at 12:05

from all the other threads, the link from BBC about this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4773880.stm

Keylow · 5 Mar 2006 at 12:15

I thought BT were going to lift their max db line noise rules with this. Seems not. Im on 2Mbit but I doubt they would upgrade me on these stats?:

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 2272 kbps 288 kbps
Line Attenuation 46 db 12.5 db
Noise Margin 13 db 22 db

tolien · 5 Mar 2006 at 12:18

Keylow said:
I thought BT were going to lift their max db line noise rules with this.

Er, they are...
The attenuation limits will disappear, but your crappy SNR isn't going to magically improve.

For the trillionth time, this (also in the FAQ) should give some rough indication of what you'll get.

FreeStream · 5 Mar 2006 at 12:18

Cooool! 8mb possible!!!

Ive got a NetGear DG634 but I cant find any of the above data showing line Db etc

Do I have to wait and see what I get? Or is there anyway of finding out??

Cheers Conc

tolien · 5 Mar 2006 at 12:19

Whoosh could extract stats, but that's dependant on having an ISP with a clue.