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barmyllama · 13 Nov 2014 at 17:27

Maybe not an upper limit to maintain a licence but a maybe a bottom limit.

I mean to be in an HPD with an IR of less than 500 shouldn't really be allowed.

PaulC2K · 13 Nov 2014 at 20:12

Spunkey said:
I was honestly in two minds whether or not to post the video. However the lack of an apology really riled me. Maybe I'm too petulant, I don't know.

Oh, i'd be furious, absolutely no doubt

Its just that, while its poor judgement, its not really something i'd consider bad driving or inconsiderate actions, its a lack of skill and poor judgement. Everyone is capable of screwing up (and apologising too!) so it just seemed a little extreme to edit a video about it. A clip to show an idiotic move, fair enough, i've had people accuse me of being 'really unfair' and they'd basically spent the first 2 laps trying to pass me, ive given them room every time, and ive positioned my car defensively before they've even attempted to move for it, so theres absolutely no doubt what my intentions are, they've then divebombed me and taken out the car 2+ car lengths ahead.

SKILL said:
I'm not sure if iRating should be included, and if so where do you draw the line? need to be 6000+ for A class? or 2000+?

The Pro/DWC licences include iRating to some extent I believe, which makes sense, but not sure it does for us commoners...

The problem is ultimately commercial though, SR used to be a fair bit harder to both gain and maintain, and without fast-track it took a significant amount of time to progress to A-class, now you can go from Rookie to A-class in a very very short time period.

Yup, like Barmy says, there should just be sensible restrictions, not elitist ones. You can still practice and do unofficial races, but there should be a requirement that you're capable of a decent standard of racing, and that applies to driving around others as well as having competent race pace, esp in multi-class racing. Single class they'd just leave you behind.

GravyMonster · 13 Nov 2014 at 21:57

Yeah, now I've had a night and day to think on it, you guys are right. I was being a bit harsh. To be honest the main reason I did the video was because it was the first race I recorded as I was testing out ShadowPlay

Anyway, just did another WSCS race and surprise or surprises there was more RUFs than HPDs :eek:

The classes were split 12/2/1/14! The HPD drivers were moaning something chronic about traffic at the end. Their race was even one lap less than usual because of it.

Muska · 13 Nov 2014 at 21:59

But the traffic is the whole point of a multi class event! It gives them more to do and more to consider for a more tactical race!

The C-Sp[ec does seem to be at it's most popular right now, any time of the day I can seem to find an official race in the RUF cup.

SKILL · 14 Nov 2014 at 11:54

iRating is purely results though, I don't care if a driver is 30 seconds or whatever off the pace if he doesn't get involved in incidents then it's not a problem. Hell that's probably better for me than a guy say 5 seconds off the pace who races any car he's near, yet that guy is likely to have a higher iRating and hence be more eligible to race?

Using SR for licences is, imo, fine, but what isn't is the dumbed down nature of it, it's far far too easy to get to, and maintain, an A-class licence, I probably shouldn't have one that's for sure

barmyllama · 14 Nov 2014 at 12:50

It's difficult to come up with a one size fits all solution.

But as you say, it should be a lot harder to get and maintain the higher licences.

PaulC2K · 14 Nov 2014 at 16:04

SKILL said:
iRating is purely results though, I don't care if a driver is 30 seconds or whatever off the pace if he doesn't get involved in incidents then it's not a problem. Hell that's probably better for me than a guy say 5 seconds off the pace who races any car he's near, yet that guy is likely to have a higher iRating and hence be more eligible to race?

Using SR for licences is, imo, fine, but what isn't is the dumbed down nature of it, it's far far too easy to get to, and maintain, an A-class licence, I probably shouldn't have one that's for sure

Thats wonderful if you're in single class racing, but when you've got someone who's getting in your way when they're 2 classes higher than you in a multiclass series its a joke, a 400 iR in a HPD, shouldnt be racing with a 2500 iR in a Ford GT.

When its someone who is considerably off the pace, and they're lapping you, they're still dangerous to be around because they're not taking corners or lines correctly.
The one i was racing against was slowing down so much that i passed him 4 times in the first 2 laps, and he'd go by on the bits of straight. If you're getting in the way of a car 2 classes below when you havent made any mistakes, then you shouldnt be there. Its that simple. No, it shouldnt need an iR limit, it should only require common sense and some respect for others around you, but apparently speed isnt the only thing they lack.

In single class racing, it doesnt matter because they'll get dropped and you'll probably never see them, if you do you'll most likely fly past them. In multiclass racing, they're slow for their own class, and they're simply unpredictable for every other class when they start lapping them.

GravyMonster · 15 Nov 2014 at 13:26

Oh, come on!

Starting to get p'd the f off with this games' bs now. Still waiting for the results, but I'd imagine it's another 100 or so iRating gone through no fault of my own.

Sat in the pits for 8 minutes, and the car was still pulling 30 degress left when I got out again. Gave up after 2 laps. Just not even worth it.

Muska · 15 Nov 2014 at 14:37

That has got to be the worst new code I've ever seen. Y9u should complain to iracing about that, see if they'll do anything.

Doggie2k · 15 Nov 2014 at 15:35

Where was the other driver from? That's some pretty high pinging NetCode

barmyllama · 15 Nov 2014 at 15:36

Have you also noticed in practice sessions that every time someone joins the server the game pauses for a split second?

GravyMonster · 15 Nov 2014 at 15:37

Doggie2k said:
Where was the other driver from? That's some pretty high pinging NetCode

That's what I thought, weirdly he was from UK&I.

barmyllama said:
Have you also noticed in practice sessions that every time someone joins the server the game pauses for a split second?

I haven't noticed that one myself, although I haven't been paying that much attention. I'll keep an eye out for it.

PaulC2K · 15 Nov 2014 at 16:18

barmyllama said:
Have you also noticed in practice sessions that every time someone joins the server the game pauses for a split second?

Ive heard people mentioning it, ive heard many say they've never had it, and ive heard people saying theres a fix for it somewhere on the forums. Its a client side issue though, and seems like it'd be easily fixable if you find a thread for the issue.

barmyllama · 15 Nov 2014 at 17:37

It's only just started happening to me.

Muska · 15 Nov 2014 at 18:40

Yea I get it too, sometimes it's worse than others.

GravyMonster · 16 Nov 2014 at 22:15

Another WSCS race. 24 HPDs. The hardest race of my life. The first 10 or so HPD drivers were pretty clueds up, and knew where to pass, how to do it, when to wait, when to go, how to read the signals you were sending with your line. The other half was an absolute crapshoot.

I just about managed to escape after being passed around the outside on the exit of both Pouhon and Eau Rouge and come out with a solid second place.

It really was a crazy race. I think from lap 4 onward there was never a clean lap. I guess that's the nature on WSCS. I'd hate to race this full time. I couldn't imagine it on a track like Mid-Ohio or Bathurst.

Muska · 16 Nov 2014 at 23:31

Shame you never raced in the 24hour @ Spa, the overtaking cars were excellent.

I raced wscs last week at Barber and there were no problems at all with traffic, but at Watkins last season I was wrecked 3 times in warmup. I think it's really hit or miss depending on time you race. Maybe look for a SOF races so you hopefully get a top split?

weyland yutani · 17 Nov 2014 at 01:04

Spunkey said:
Oh, come on!

Starting to get p'd the f off with this games' bs now. Still waiting for the results, but I'd imagine it's another 100 or so iRating gone through no fault of my own.

Sat in the pits for 8 minutes, and the car was still pulling 30 degress left when I got out again. Gave up after 2 laps. Just not even worth it.

OT but Spunkey, were you in a GT3 race (SLS) at Spa in Assetto Corsa yesterday? I was having a decent race with someone by that name till some **** parked his Z4 on the blind crest of Eau Rouge, which I hit and Spunkey crashed into me

barmyllama · 17 Nov 2014 at 07:54

Bad week for me.

Did two 70 minute GT3 races at Road Atlanta. I threw it off the track after 25 laps in race one without any help from anyone else. Managed to finish the second race one lap down with a minor IR gain.

I also did two races in the Cadillac. Don't think I'll be doing any more, the racing standard is appalling. In the first race I managed to finish with a small
IR gain but SR loss after being hit from behind 3 times and having to pit for wheel damage without any contact. I assume it was some kind of latency issue.

I got disqualified from the second race for too many incidents after being hit from behind 4 times, the 4th of which was a deliberate ram. Filed a protest for that one. Over all this week I think I've lost over 100 IR and SR from 3.2 down to 2.0.

Roll on Sebring.

Doggie2k · 17 Nov 2014 at 09:55

I've never touched Caddie races at all because you are racing around with rookies who can affect your Irating and SR with no effect to theirs. I like the car though and do a lot of private testing in it.

Have just moved back to the UK, looking forward to racing again when my stuff arrives in a few months I'm kind of lost without it ha! It will be great not having to deal with 300+ pings.