Is 8GB of Vram enough for the 3070

[TNA]

Cool. I think I've fixed my issue. The game still uses all available vram (like it did on my 1080ti) but I'm not getting any more crashes. I have wz installed on an m2 drive that isn't my windows c drive. There was No paging file set on it so I created one. Issue resolved

Weird. Never heard of having to set up a page file on a drive that does not have Windows. I have some games on my non Windows nvme and not had any issues like that.

But still does not explain why so much memory is being used in the first place.

 

[azazl187]

Weird. Never heard of having to set up a page file on a drive that does not have Windows. I have some games on my non Windows nvme and not had any issues like that.

But still does not explain why so much memory is being used in the first place.

Nor me but it seems to have worked

 

[david25]

Doesn't Ampere use tensor cores to compress and decompress vram data by up to 40%? So 8Gb vram can store up to 11.2Gb? There was lots of news about this prior to release 2 years ago but then it was all forgotten about. This was supposed to be how they were able to reduce the amount of vram.

I've seen YouTube videos recently comparing Ampere with Turing and the Ampere cards are using less vram with the same resolution and settings.

Detail here from 2018!

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13282/nvidia-turing-architecture-deep-dive/8

 

[Grim5]

If ampere is compressing vram it's not very impressive because running the same game on ampere and rdna2 the amd GPU typically only uses 500mb more vram than the ampere gpu

So if Ampere is compressing vram then so is AMD and Ampere is only slightly better at it than RDNA2

 

[Tired9]

Cool. I think I've fixed my issue. The game still uses all available vram (like it did on my 1080ti) but I'm not getting any more crashes. I have wz installed on an m2 drive that isn't my windows c drive. There was No paging file set on it so I created one. Issue resolved

Oh! Glad you found it

Managed to get off work early tonight, happy days.

Well here is the video.

Of note I also seemed to max around 7.5GB of system / process memory too.

Even if you have fixed it, I find it very odd that your card even fills it's Vram and my card don't.

 

[michty_me]

I'll need to give it a whirl on the 3080 and report back

 

[azazl187]

Oh! Glad you found it

Managed to get off work early tonight, happy days.

Well here is the video.

Of note I also seemed to max around 7.5GB of system / process memory too.

Even if you have fixed it, I find it very odd that your card even fills it's Vram and my card don't.

Guess in a way it is filling your vram. Your card has 8 and 7.5 of it is getting filled. Mine is 24 and now after adding a page file it goes upto 23gb used. It would also max out my 1080ti at 10.5gig.

Maybe the game utilises textures and keeps them in the vram?

 

[michty_me]

Slightly off topic, I could have sworn I seen something about DLSS 3.0 but searched all my news feeds and replies but can't find anything relating to it.
Even a Google search doesn't return anything. I think I'm cracking up.

 

[azazl187]

Slightly off topic, I could have sworn I seen something about DLSS 3.0 but searched all my news feeds and replies but can't find anything relating to it.
Even a Google search doesn't return anything. I think I'm cracking up.

I think your google might be broken... I just searched and got loads of info back

 

[michty_me]

I think your google might be broken... I just searched and got loads of info back

I'm sure it was a recent news article, the only stuff I see now is rumour articles about it. I must have imagined its release. Been a long day.

 

[Tired9]

Guess in a way it is filling your vram. Your card has 8 and 7.5 of it is getting filled. Mine is 24 and now after adding a page file it goes upto 23gb used. It would also max out my 1080ti at 10.5gig.

Maybe the game utilises textures and keeps them in the vram?

That's system memory, 6.7GB is my GPU Vram max in WZ which again I find odd.

Windows is tweaked too with visual styles just having the theme applied, not the smoothing of things etc which takes some performance from the GPU.

 

[Phixsator]

LOL

You can laugh all you want, but i'm talking from experience. The RTX 3070 I had would be bottlenecked by vram in a lot of the games I played, if RT was also enabled it was pretty much a certainty.

 

[TNA]

You can laugh all you want, but i'm talking from experience. The RTX 3070 I had would be bottlenecked by vram in a lot of the games I played, if RT was also enabled it was pretty much a certainty.

Lucky I don't play the games you do

Saying that though I do think in 2022 16GB should be the standard amount now.

 

[Poneros]

They really did lower end Ampere buyers dirty with just 8 GB vram. Absolutely brutal performance, <20 fps even WITH DLSS on, especially when the camera turns. Hope people didn't buy these cards hoping they could turn on raytracing willy-nilly.

 

[gpuerrilla]

 

[Rroff]

They really did lower end Ampere buyers dirty with just 8 GB vram. Absolutely brutal performance, <20 fps even WITH DLSS on, especially when the camera turns. Hope people didn't buy these cards hoping they could turn on raytracing willy-nilly.

Can't say I bought a 3070 with any intention of playing 4K with the latest generation of games... I doubt many others did either. If I wanted 4K performance I wouldn't be expecting it from a mid-range card.

 

[Darujhistan]

They really did lower end Ampere buyers dirty with just 8 GB vram. Absolutely brutal performance, <20 fps even WITH DLSS on, especially when the camera turns. Hope people didn't buy these cards hoping they could turn on raytracing willy-nilly.

8GB in 2021 was an absolute scam.

Everyone knows it, there were £200 cards from 4 years ago with 8GB of VRAM.

 

[Nexus18]

Can't say I bought a 3070 with any intention of playing 4K with the latest generation of games... I doubt many others did either. If I wanted 4K performance I wouldn't be expecting it from a mid-range card.

Pretty much that.

Heck even the 3080 and 3090 can't achieve a locked 60 the whole time unless using dlss performance or/and reducing settings not to mention amds RDNA 2 generally performs even worse than the 3070 with RT turned on... But nope, as per usual, lets only ever focus on nvidias vram amount and nothing else....

https://www.kitguru.net/gaming/dominic-moass/dying-light-2-pc-performance-benchmark-30-gpus-tested/

Wrapping up testing with 4K at maxed out settings, most GPUs barely clear 30 fps even with FSR or DLSS. Of course, Nvidia would say you should use DLSS Performance mode, which would boost performance by at least another 30–40%. That should get the 3080 close to 60 fps, and the 3090 (and 3080 Ti) would break that barrier. Running at native resolution without upscaling, only the 3090 barely broke the 30 fps mark.

Saying that, I don't recall of @TNA mentioning any issues at 4k with his 3070 except in a cutscene?

8GB in 2021 was an absolute scam.

Everyone knows it, there were £200 cards from 4 years ago with 8GB of VRAM.

Silly statement is silly.....

 

[ASMB]

Can't say I bought a 3070 with any intention of playing 4K with the latest generation of games... I doubt many others did either. If I wanted 4K performance I wouldn't be expecting it from a mid-range card.

Trouble is AIB 3070s & 3070TI have been high end prices, lets hope that changes

https://youtu.be/CZxzbAKUk0w?t=364

Although at least AMD helps the 3070 with FSR, unlike Nvidia using closed tech with DLSS

https://youtu.be/irtHWFl8220?t=70

 

[Darujhistan]

Definite ripoff 8GB in 2021.

2018's VRAM at 3-4 times the price!