Is it time to ban LED Headlights

The problem is there is no maximum brightness in law for headlights

The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989

goes into considerable detail about what’s legal when it comes to headlights in the UK. The law doesn’t exactly specify a maximum legal brightness. But it strongly implies that there is one.

In short, it stipulates that all of your car lights must have an approval mark – often called an E mark – or a British Standard mark. After all, if you fit your headlights with a bulb that’s going to blind other drivers, then it won’t have any marks of approval. So it won’t be legal anyway!

But beyond this, the law essentially states that your headlights must be white or yellow, and that they must be bright enough to allow you to see around 100 metres ahead of you without blinding other drivers.

Thats it. Perhaps it does need updating?

Halogen was 600-900 lumens. HID were up to 4500 lumens. Decent LED headlights are 2500-3000 lumens but some car manufacturers fit headlights that are up to 12,000 lumens apparently. Some LED headlights in the Seat leon for example are only 900 lumens so LED headlights doesnt necessarily mean more light power

By law any headlight producing over 2000 lumens needs a headlight washer. But not sure if this applies to LED headlights? Certainly the BMW laser lights were 170% brighter than the standard LED lights and i would imagine standard BMW LED headlights were already close to 2,000 lumens so laser lights should have taken them well above.

But it does seem like a bit of mess atm and perhaps we do need to ask the question as to why we need cars with 12,000 lumen headlights? The may well have E mark approval but doesnt mean they should be allowed.
 
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Acura apparently are 11,000 lumens

I should have clarified, which UK market cars have these? I don't think many if any UK cars have lights like this so not sure what value a 3000 limit would have. Presumably we've already reached the peak back when Xenon headlights were around because most cars since then no longer have headlight washers, indicating they are under 2000.
 
This is absolutely nothing like the figures on gov.uk.
Actually that was a mistype. Was supposed to be around 25% for the RAC.
I haven't looked for the Gov figures - How does the 25% compare?

But my general point was perhaps there should be a maximum of say 3,000 lumens? Rather than leaving it open ended?
It's not so much the lumen output as where those lumens are directed. If all of them are focussed into your eye, you ain't seeing shot through that!
 
I haven't looked for the Gov figures - How does the 25% compare?

I'm not sure where you are getting this number from. You can find a recent RAC report here which I have to presume is the one referred to, it says this:

Road traffic accidents data up to 2021 does not show an increase in accidents caused by headlights

38. In the Department for Transport’s road collisions, vehicles and casualties statistical dataset, one of the contributing factors to accidents that is monitored is ‘dazzling headlights’. The latest collated statistics refer to 2021 and include 10 years of data (Exhibit 1). This does not appear to show any increase in accidents caused by collisions, although it must be borne in mind that the last two years were severely affected by Covid restrictions (March- June 2020, September– November 2020.January– July 2021).

39. In the USA, the number of traffic accidents caused by glare from the high-beam headlights of oncoming traffic at night accounts for 12 per cent to 15 per cent of all traffic accidents. (25)​

That reference, (25) is to this paper from 1993 which, as far as I can tell, contains no such figure. Or indeed any figure on the number of traffic accidents caused by glare from high-beam headlights. Instead it is a paper on the development of a model for assessing visibility. Even if the figure were correct (which seems highly doubtful) it is a figure regarding people dazzled by high beams rather than people dazzled by overbright dipped headlights.
 
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That was clearly nonsense, I expect barely 25% of accidents even happen in the dark given traffic patterns, nevermind be directly attributable to oncoming lights :p
ROSPA reckons it's closer to 40% in the dark...

I'm not sure where you are getting this number from.
Trying to recall exact figures (it was definitely 20-something) from an RAC report, which I thought had already been posted. Might have been in another thread.
 
I think the rules should be updated to allow LED/xenon upgrades in cars that didn't originally have them, provided it can still pass an MOT beam pattern test.

You can to any car that is older than 1st April 1986. :) Hence I am just abut to fit LED headlights to my 1967 MGB.
 
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You can to any car that is older than 1st April 1986. :) Hence I am just abut to fit LED headlights to my 1967 MGB.
I thought it was a no no to fit LED bulbs into reflector housings?
Only in projector type housings were they any good.
 
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