Is the end of Battery EVs coming?

They got set in fire too. Like you my said next, like anything 'said' by Masher means anything. How long have you lived in SF to be the authority on this exactly?

If someone smahed the screen or stabbed the tyres in your car you would have the same issue...

Mashers are gonna Mash.

Get back to work on those dodgy Range Rovers and stop drinking.
 
Yes and loads of them in SF get rendered useless by pranksters putting stuff on their bonnets. Like I said.

When they are moving, they often get stuck and block roads, especially around roadworks and busy junctions. As soon as they meet something which isn't a clear street they break.
there is work still to be done that is for sure..... but as for vandals (they are not pranksters) deliberately shutting the cars down..... i consider them with as much contempt as i do the asshats who go around deflating car tyres or other forms of civil disobedience and if caught (which may be possible with all the cctv and cameras in the cars) they need the book throwing at them with fines which as a minimum cover the dusruption they cause
 
Self driving cars have reached a dead end. They can't figure out how to make them not run kids over and do other random, dangerous stuff. Or get completely shut down by someone placing a cone on the bonnet.

That doesn't sound any different to a human driver...

Would be nice to see the stats on incidents per mile driven for self drive vs average human driver

The focus is shifting towards removing the need for journeys in the first place.

Probably the only sensible thing you've ever posted in a discussion involving EVs!
 
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Probably the only sensible thing you've ever posted in a discussion involving EVs!
unless someone comes up with beam technology (which even joking aside i would not be going near!!!!) unless we go back to the old days of families barely moving out of the village they grew up in, i dont see the need to be able to travel across the country going away any time soon.
Would be nice if rail was up to it but i think HS2 has shown this country is incapable of building any infrastucture like that.
 
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Rail was up to it, we had the best rail network in the world with local tracks connecting towns and villages. The government dismantled it over the past century.
 
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Rail was up to it, we had the best rail network in the world with local tracks connecting towns and villages. The government dismantled it over the past century.
yep, Sadly i just dont see that ever coming back however .. In truth its before my time, as a kid my mum used to take me on the train to various towns and cities and even then both my parents complained the rail was rubbish and expensive.


but compared to today, it cost buttons!. I cant see any use case for why i would ever consider the train and that is driving in a single occupancy car..... hell even forgetting the price of the train ticket there is the extortionate parking prices at most stations.

if you live in a major city, travelling within the city is slightly different. using a metro or the underground is often not too bad.
 
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unless someone comes up with beam technology (which even joking aside i would not be going near!!!!) unless we go back to the old days of families barely moving out of the village they grew up in, i dont see the need to be able to travel across the country going away any time soon.
Would be nice if rail was up to it but i think HS2 has shown this country is incapable of building any infrastucture like that.

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he meant most journeys (e.g. things like commuting into the office for people who could easily WFH), rather than the obviously unavoidable things like visiting family etc.

Of course you're never going to eliminate all need for in-person travel, but we do make a lot of journeys which could be avoided via technology these days.
 
not an ending (good track) but a hiatus - if you've followed some of the self drive accidents where limits of technology to show general intelligence is woeful -
that waymoo dragging of victim post-accident, teslas hit side of overturned trailer across road, tesla vision misinterpreting distance of motorbikes.
any plans for convoy self-driving on the anodyne uk motorway network has to be on hold.
 
Will watch it later but why has he gone off his x5 45e? He loved that and with the type of driving he did he was averaging more than 50 mpg?

Range Rover are awful with their pricing. I bet if he put £20k deposit down the x5 50e wouldnt be anymore than the £600 per month either.
 
Simply not true.
Most modern (ie built in the last 20 years or so) that have double glazing and half decent insulation, and have at least 10mm piping are now suitable

The difficulties lie around small rads, especially things like towel rails, and for many combis.

The heat exchanger (not inverter) are no noiser than a normal AC unit in effect which have some restrictions where you can place them, but are not that noisy in reality.

A large pressured hot water tank is a massive benefit, you make out like its a negative ;)
(As I type this I am heating my large hot water tank for free from an Octopus power up)

Point is the number of "modern" properties built in the last 20 years so such a small proportion of the UK houses. Just 3 million (10%) out of the 30 million houses in the Uk have been built in the last 24 years. And 24 years ago (when we did up our house and converted the attached barn) the building regs on insulation and heat loss was really basic. Which means we are faced with substantial additional costs running into tens of thousands if we wanted to go with a heat pump.
 
not an ending (good track) but a hiatus - if you've followed some of the self drive accidents where limits of technology to show general intelligence is woeful -
that waymoo dragging of victim post-accident, teslas hit side of overturned trailer across road, tesla vision misinterpreting distance of motorbikes.
any plans for convoy self-driving on the anodyne uk motorway network has to be on hold.

Yep, there are to many holes and grey areas with it. If you tell it to always stop for X it will get stuck forever, if you tell it to sometimes ignore X to avoid that, you get situations where it just runs in to things. Currently there is no way around the issue.
 
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Landrover just launched the new RR Sport SV - a petrol, BMW powered SUV, costing £200k (with a few options), weighing 2.6 tons and with 18MPG.

Feels like the cost, weight and range complaints of EV SUV’s are no longer justified e.g. Lotus Eletre, BMW iX M60, Polestar 3 Performance, with similar performance, weight and range but cost £80k+ less !
 
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Starts at £171k and is another league to a polestar let’s be honest. People don’t buy these cars for value for money

90litre tank and 22mpg is a 440 mile range too
 
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Should we rename this thread the ‘***The official EV greatest hits thread****’?

As for Harry, the reality is Harry wanted a Range Rover that only cost £lol to run instead of the £mega lol of the petrol version.

He had to make something up in a video to justify the diesel as that’s a bit taboo these days to keep the audience of his content happy. A bit of EV bashing is par for the course isn’t it?

If he’d just said he fancied a change and liked the Range Rover, the video wouldn’t be getting the sort of traction it is.
 
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Starts at £171k and is another league to a polestar let’s be honest. People don’t buy these cars for value for money

90litre tank and 22mpg is a 440 mile range too
Land Rover removed all the buttons in the RR and RR Sport - so you’re just left with a large (laggy) display and some Piano black trim :cry:
The RR badge is ‘in another league’, not sure about the rest of it.
 
Should we rename this thread the ‘***The official EV greatest hits thread****’?

As for Harry, the reality is Harry wanted a Range Rover that only cost £lol to run instead of the £mega lol of the petrol version.

He had to make something up in a video to justify the diesel as that’s a bit taboo these days to keep the audience of his content happy. A bit of EV bashing is par for the course isn’t it?

If he’d just said he fancied a change and liked the Range Rover, the video wouldn’t be getting the sort of traction it is.

I don't have a horse in this race but your incessant waaaaaa every time someone says something negative about EVs is quite amusing :D


We get it, you drive an EV, you like EVs, you see EVs as the future of transport and no other vehicle will ever matter again and anyone who comes up with any other idea is wrong.


Can we circle back to the hydrogen discussion now or is that too soon?
 
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