Is this desperate?

8igdave said:
This and don't forget to do drugs!
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What about the hookers? :(

Seems like the best course I suppose. Also means I have more money around when I do leave home, so can get better smaller stuff (m-ITX has intrigued me, but budget has pushed it out of thought).
 
Cookeh said:
Sneaking isn't an option, unfortunately.

I shall wait until Tuesday and then open conversation up again, if it doesn't work might as well just sod it and buy it :p
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Turn that conversation into a one way statement. You are not asking for permission to buy yourself something with your own money when technically you're an adult. Fair enough your parents want you to save for Uni, but if i'm not mistaken a computer is very desirable for Uni, just look at the "My setup/room" thread on this forum, some of these Uni rooms are like mini bat-caves. I have a friend who's 37 and still he doesnt stand up to his parents, its pretty pathetic to see him rushing around like servant. You're 18 now so man up tell them you've considered their advice but you going to buy this computer because it has many uses the most important being education. Dont ask them, tell them.
 
Cookeh said:
Both parents have PhD's, not quite morons :p Just ignorant at times, and stubborn.
Similarly, Dad knows a fair bit about computers and would establish if ram wasn't seated or cable was loose or somehow battery had disappeared :rolleyes:
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Even when you get a PhD yourself it won't change(trust me on this)! :p

It is important to be respectful to parents and no doubt they will have your best interests in mind but be weary of them dictating your life for you.

TBH,tell them you are getting a new PC and end it at that.

Show how much you have saved and tell them you have had the PC for years now and this will also last a few years too.

For instance if it is £500 tell them it works out at £125/year.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Even when you get a PhD yourself it won't change(trust me on this)! :p

It is important to be respectful to parents and no doubt they will have your best interests in mind but be weary of them dictating your life for you.

TBH,tell them you are getting a new PC and end it at that.

Show how much you have saved and tell them you have had the PC for years now and this will also last a few years too.

For instance if it is £500 tell them it works out at £125/year.
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I've had this PC 2 years, my uncle who gave it to me had it for 6 years at least and spent £500 on it originally. It's had a good life :p

They know how much I have, not sure how, I open my bank statements and shred them instantly :p
 
Cookeh said:
I've had this PC 2 years, my uncle who gave it to me had it for 6 years at least and spent £500 on it originally. It's had a good life :p

They know how much I have, not sure how, I open my bank statements and shred them instantly :p
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In fact wait until you go to university. This way you can build your PC then!
 
Cookeh, I was lucky growing up, my parent let me spend all available cash on BMX parts, then still picked me up from hospital whenever I broke something, however as your parents seem so focused on academia, maybe lead with the argument that a faster computer will allow you to organise your thoughts more efficiently while doing uni/college/sixth form work.
point them to this article http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/hourglass-syndrome-computer-rage-SMASH,news-34735.html and say although you don't suffer from rage
that it can ruin your flow when you have a good idea.
Another angle to approach it from is energy efficiency, as a cheap i3 530/540 build will use about 10-15% of the power of a pentium 4 (is that what you're running atm?) to complete the same workload.
also maybe consider looking second hand, as you've said you can make £100 a day, and for around £100 you could get a core2duo and a g31 board and 2gb ram easily I would think.
(in fact I just priced it up on the site, and brand new, a c2d e3500, MSI g41 board, and 2gb kingston value comes to £107.20 + P&P),
I cant see any logical argument against spending ONE DAYS WAGES on something that will make it easier for you to do the work you need to do to succeed in later life.
Not to say they won't find some illogical argument against it, they are probably afraid that if you had a better computer you'd spend all your time gaming instead of working
 
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If it was me mate i'd just plain order the parts, then when they arrive, destroy the packaging of a low value part so it cant be returned (dont do high value, in case you;re unlukcy enough for them to be faulty).

Just start building and do it, you're 18 and it's your money. You can go and join the army and get killed if you wanted, and your folks arn't letting you build a computer...

Its not looking out for you, its being a control freak.
 
TrojanWhore said:
Cookeh, I was lucky growing up, my parent let me spend all available cash on BMX parts, then still picked me up from hospital whenever I broke something, however as your parents seem so focused on academia, maybe lead with the argument that a faster computer will allow you to organise your thoughts more efficiently while doing uni/college/sixth form work.
point them to this article http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/hourglass-syndrome-computer-rage-SMASH,news-34735.html and say although you don't suffer from rage
that it can ruin your flow when you have a good idea.
SNIP
Not to say they won't find some illogical argument against it, they are probably afraid that if you had a better computer you'd spend all your time gaming instead of working
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The latter part is what they are afraid of. Fact of the matter is I wouldn't. I have all my Uni offers, I know what I need to do to get there. I'm not going to doss my life away spending hours upon hours playing games, but its nice to have the odd game and to go on Photoshop etc.

They are academically focused, as I. It is almost like they can't trust me with my own life or something. Meh, I dunno.

Think waiting for Uni is currently the best idea - hopefully markets haven't inflated stupidly by then!
 
'kinell, just man up! You're nearly 18 FFS. Don't deliberately break your rig. It could be used as a file server/HTPC/given to your gran/ etc.


Heck when I was 15 my Dad came back from a few weeks working in the 'states to find that I'd spent £1500 of my own moneys on building myself a new PC as I'd got bored of the one I'd built from his castoffs..

His reaction? "Why haven't you overclocked it yet? :D" He was impressed that his little baby had managed to not only build the machine but also specify the components without any compatibility problems.


Though....
pwsymonds said:
to be honest, if your parents dont want you spending money on a new PC whilst under their roof and following their rules, there isnt much you can do.
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Their roof = their rules.
 
If it was me, I would probably buy a netbook now ready for uni (tell your parents you would prefer it to a full laptop as it's more portable), then when you get to Uni, just build yourself the PC you want, nothing they can do then, when will you next be bringing it home? Xmas? Going to be too late to return it by then :P

I mentioned this thread to my dad and he was amazed by it, and thought that £300 for a build is nothing (which it is, basically). Although he is running 4 PCs... 2xCore2Duo, 1xCore2Quad, and an i5...
 
stulid said:
bump the cpu voltage up and fry it.

stop the heatsink fan from rotating.
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Be careful as you can also damage the Heatsink & the motherboard by doing this, best way to do it by snapping a row of pins off the cpu, gently bending them will do the trick, eventually it just wont work.
 
So what are you going to do Cookeh? You've got loads of ideas now. It's really not hard to kill a pc so you gona just do it or was it more thinking about doing it rather than actually doing it?

Personally I would either damage the mobo capacitors by squeezing them till the top pops off or just generally fiddling till one breaks or just generally mistreat the mobo discretely till it stops working or do as stated above and bend the cpu pins a bit. In doing so you will have to rip the heatsink off which will also mean it will never cool the cpu properly again untill it is cleaned and new paste is put back on so its got the added bonus of probably throttling your cpu anyway.
 
If its just that they are worried about you gaming all the time, you shold argue the point that they should let you prove to them that you can control yourself, and if it turns out you cant, its better to find out now as that way they could take it away from you and give you the old one back. If they wait until you go to uni and you have no experience with self control and no one potentionally on yer back about it, you will be much more likely to fail and just dos around more.

This may or may not be true, but its a good argument for getting it now. You have to face challanges and actually experience them, the earlier the better, and in safer environments. That way when you are out on your own in the real world with no one to turn to, you already know how to deal withe verything/things like not gaming all day are already a habit etc.
 
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