ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

RoboCod · 9 Dec 2015 at 19:53

hurfdurf said:
Uh... Can you show me where in that post I said it was the coalition?! I didn't say whose bombs they were just showed that civilians are dead. Think you jumped the gun a bit there kid.

Your own link said coalition forces!! You can't cite the contents of one link (your 2nd to last post) then simply dismiss them in your next :rolleyes:

kid.

Zethor · 9 Dec 2015 at 21:17

Chris Wilson said:
Nuclear force probably saved a lot more death, overall, in Japan, and brought a swift surrender and conclusion to things, not that I think Mr. Putin would actually go quite that far yet.

Japan had at least 4 million obedient, disciplined men following the orders of a fanatical leadership and islands to defend. Your comparison is laughable.

MrMarvelous said:
No i'm not. Please explain.

ISIS consists of thousands of men spread through deserts and outnumbered by innocent civilians 200 to 1. You don't need to be a military genius to understand that weapons of mass destruction would be useless in this scenario.

phil675 · 9 Dec 2015 at 21:23

Just a quick comment, nukes Putin is talking about is low yield tactical nukes on cruise missiles not full on world ending ones.

Rroff · 9 Dec 2015 at 22:08

phil675 said:
Just a quick comment, nukes Putin is talking about is low yield tactical nukes on cruise missiles not full on world ending ones.

There are no "world ending" nukes in existence anyhow despite the emotional perspective/rhetoric when it comes to those kind of weapons - though the US and Russia going full tit for tat would have a fairly catastrophic impact on the global environment - over the decades dozens of nuclear tests have been carried out including the detonation of the biggest nuclear bomb ever created.

(IIRC even the low yield tactical devices for cruise missiles are in the 100+kt range).

Malevolence · 9 Dec 2015 at 22:13

Gotta love the image RT chose to go with their story.

Cyanide · 9 Dec 2015 at 22:15

phil675 said:
Just a quick comment, nukes Putin is talking about is low yield tactical nukes on cruise missiles not full on world ending ones.

Tactical missiles still have several times the power of the bombs dropped on Japan (~20kt, tacticals can be up to 100kt).

Plus any nukes being fired risks escalation.

StriderX · 10 Dec 2015 at 00:54

Freakbro said:
Don't start celebrating yet, since it's actually the Saudis who are the ones keeping the oil price low, they have a decade or two iirc they can keep this up for.

One of the reasons they are doing it is to put pressure on the US shale industry by trying to make it uneconomical to frac.

They can turn the oil taps down at any point to raise the crude oil price when it suits them

Fracking is rather easy nowadays, you can just turn up to a site, drill a hole and then sit on until its profitable again.

So no the Saudis have monumentally ruined themselves.

Tefal · 10 Dec 2015 at 01:07

Just seen an interesting quote on the telly from the father of one of the Paris attackers "if I'd have known he'd grow up to do this, I'd have killed him before"

That's a grim sentiment to have to have in regard to your own kids

Boycey0211 · 10 Dec 2015 at 01:18

Tefal said:
Just seen an interesting quote on the telly from the father of one of the Paris attackers "if I'd have known he'd grow up to do this, I'd have killed him before"

That's a grim sentiment to have to have in regard to your own kids

Its grim we live in a world where a father has to think things like that, and for it not to be a far fetched idea.

hurfdurf · 10 Dec 2015 at 08:05

RoboCod said:
Your own link said coalition forces!! You can't cite the contents of one link (your 2nd to last post) then simply dismiss them in your next kid.

Mayhaps you need to learn to read?

BBC said:
possibly carried out by the US-led coalition, a monitoring group says

Gilly · 10 Dec 2015 at 09:27

Tefal said:
Just seen an interesting quote on the telly from the father of one of the Paris attackers "if I'd have known he'd grow up to do this, I'd have killed him before"

That's a grim sentiment to have to have in regard to your own kids

It's very grim, but a sentiment that is very much shared by many. It's been said here already.

The Geezer · 10 Dec 2015 at 09:57

How weird, surely there isn't a conspiracy to paint a particular narrative ?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...am-media-outlets-say-organisers-a6765976.html

Freakbro · 10 Dec 2015 at 10:07

What a great story and this wounded soldiers attitude should be a lesson to a lot of people in this thread

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-35054442

Herbert said he wrote the post after an "Islamophobic group tried to recruit me as a poster boy" and he goes on to describe several incidents where "white Brits" were rude and abusive to him, using occasionally colourful language. "Although, a lot of people helped in my recovery! I don't hate white brits either! hahaha," he says in the post.

deuse · 10 Dec 2015 at 10:20

Freakbro said:
What a great story and this wounded soldiers attitude should be a lesson to a lot of people in this thread

Maybe the vets that dislike them won't say a word because people like you would call them names.

Freakbro · 10 Dec 2015 at 10:23

deuse said:
Maybe the vets that dislike them won't say a word because people like you would call them names.

You're saying a veteran of an armed conflict is going to be scared of being called names on the internet :confused:

platypus · 10 Dec 2015 at 10:36

Freakbro said:
What a great story and this wounded soldiers attitude should be a lesson to a lot of people in this thread

Aye I saw this earlier, and just thought it a good sentiment really. Still, you'll probably be labelled a terrorist sympathiser for posting it.

deuse · 10 Dec 2015 at 10:52

Freakbro said:
You're saying a veteran of an armed conflict is going to be scared of being called names on the internet

Trying to twist things again...oh dear. But nothing new for people like you.

Have you looked at some of your posts calling people names if they don't agree with you(same as others here)?

Vets\people don't need to post\tweet what ever because they are grown ups and have left the play ground.

"Mr Gill described the mocking gang tearing at his beret, replete with regimental cap bade, as “like a pack of dogs would a piece of meat” before running off laughing"

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/11/u...eran-on-his-way-to-remembrance-sunday-service

And here's the other side. Do you think that Vet is wrong?

arknor · 10 Dec 2015 at 10:54

Freakbro said:
What a great story and this wounded soldiers attitude should be a lesson to a lot of people in this thread

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-35054442

how does he know they were muslim init? is he just assumed they are all muslims? what does muslim look like

platypus · 10 Dec 2015 at 10:57

deuse said:
Trying to twist things again...oh dear. But nothing new for people like you.

The irony is strong with this one.

Muzza1875 · 10 Dec 2015 at 11:00

just seen Merkel won times person of the year.....another disturbing thing is the leader of isis was runner up...what the hell.