ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

RaohNS said:
Who else is there to support?
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We can support removing the current heathens and promote the democratic election of someone who isn't going to murder their own?

It's a step in the right direction rather than saying "ah hell with it, sod all those people outside Damascus, Syria have the lesser of two evils anyway, let them crack on".

To me, that is what SHOULD happen.
 
RaohNS said:
Who else is there to support?
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Well...if you think back to the start of the whole mess I'm sure I recall political opposition to him who seemed to disappear rather quickly never to be seen again...
Maybe someone like them?
 
RoboCod said:
We can support removing the current heathens and promote the democratic election of someone who isn't going to murder their own?

It's a step in the right direction rather than saying "ah hell with it, sod all those people outside Damascus, Syria have the lesser of two evils anyway, let them crack on".

To me, that is what SHOULD happen.
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Dis86 said:
Well...if you think back to the start of the whole mess I'm sure I recall political opposition to him who seemed to disappear rather quickly never to be seen again...
Maybe someone like them?
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2 birds one stone:

My belief is ISIS should be given their own annihilation like any cancer and then Assad should step down in an orderly transition.

The problem I fear is US meddling will occur in Syria provoking a response from the Russians. I read a short extract last night actually about an oil deal going south in Syria and it was an escalation. If I can be bothered I'll read into it more and post.
 
A solution, to go right back to the beginning of this whole farce... Is if we hadn't insists Assad would have to be arrested if he stood down. Allow him and his cronies to step down and move somewhere like Russia. Yes "justice" wouldn't be done but it would have saved the anarchy we have now and allowed a democratic election to happen. Unfortunately too many people wanted Assad to step down, into a prison cell which no sane person would do.

Now the least mess for Syria (and the Middle East as a whole) is for Assad to win and stabilize the country, then people/countries to start campaigning for democratic change. Allowing the Rebels/ISIS to win is just not an option any more.

Perhaps if the west and rebels hadn't been so staunchly anti Assad at the beginning then this mess wouldn't have been as big as it is now.
 
scorza said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37049555

UN investigating another chemical weapon attack in Syria. Hey Obama - that's the problem when you let people off for crossing your 'red line', they aren't going to respect you and will just do it again.

For the pro-Russia lot, doubtless this was just the rebels bombing themselves again right?
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What I don't understand about these chemical weapons deployments is why? They rarely kill anyone and usually only affect a few people so seem pretty useless as a conventional weapon. I can only assume the main reason for dropping them is to spread fear*.

*what seems like unjustified fear at that, looking at the damage they cause.
 
scorza said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37049555

UN investigating another chemical weapon attack in Syria. Hey Obama - that's the problem when you let people off for crossing your 'red line', they aren't going to respect you and will just do it again.

For the pro-Russia lot, doubtless this was just the rebels bombing themselves again right?
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You have to love the BBC... Bless em

BBC said:
The UN special envoy for Syria said a chlorine attack, if confirmed, would amount to a "war crime".
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But when the rebels did it... Because they are head chopping, head sawing, homo-killing, fire cage killing scum... That sits all fine and dandy.

Ever consider how ISIS managed to get hold of these. At this moment in time we only have the ever so reliable and trustworthy rebels say so... Unless more recent evidence comes to light?
 
Amnesia said:
Well they would have more to gain if they could get western forces to assist them, besides could even you put it past them to attack civillians?
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Western forces can't assist them. Remember, western interference in countries is bad? Mkay?
 
Amp34 said:
What I don't understand about these chemical weapons deployments is why? They rarely kill anyone and usually only affect a few people so seem pretty useless as a conventional weapon. I can only assume the main reason for dropping them is to spread fear*.

*what seems like unjustified fear at that, looking at the damage they cause.
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Probbaly because they're meant to be done in a large scale attack but this is the odd geoup having gor a hold of only one or twonshells that haven't been stored correctly and have no idea how to deploys them properly
 
Skunkworks said:
Meh, 1 down.

EDIT: Hopefully it was the RAF - only seems fair.
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In a way these girls who go out there are worse than the actual fighters as they're specifically there as breeding machines for the next lot of murderers.

With a bit of luck her 2 sisters will go the same way.
 
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