ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

I see/hear the local Tower Hamlets MP sounding off about how it's the Government's fault for not listening to the Muslim community and how [the government] should be doing more to help children not become radicalised.

/sigh.

How about the Muslim community try a bit of parenting and explain how/why IS' ideology is completely wrong/not what Islam is about?

Good riddance to the dead one, imho.
 
Jono said:
I see/hear the local Tower Hamlets MP sounding off about how it's the Government's fault for not listening to the Muslim community and how [the government] should be doing more to help children not become radicalised.

/sigh.

How about the Muslim community try a bit of parenting and explain how/why IS' ideology is completely wrong/not what Islam is about?

Good riddance to the dead one, imho.
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Never their fault. Always have to be the victim.
 
iamtheoneneo said:
Millions of school children across the country arent signing up to ISIS, most will have watched the news over the years and put two and two together to know that ISIS is not a good thing to aspire too.
However 3 girls took it upon themselves with all the evidence out there to travel to an ISIS stronghold in an act of actively supporting them.

I for one and 100% happy this bitch is dead, and look forward to news that the other two have died.

At 16 you know the difference between right and wrong, and its appalling in itself that people feel the need to somehow protect these scumbags.
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I wasn't protecting or defending their actions at all. I feel indifferent to their death. I am simply not rejoicing that a teenager has died.
 
Jono said:
I see/hear the local Tower Hamlets MP sounding off about how it's the Government's fault for not listening to the Muslim community and how [the government] should be doing more to help children not become radicalised.

/sigh.

How about the Muslim community try a bit of parenting and explain how/why IS' ideology is completely wrong/not what Islam is about?

Good riddance to the dead one, imho.
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Yes I agree, why don't the Muslims listen to people who don't fight a religious cause and can see that the reason they moved here are modern western values and that clinging on to the east while taking the £££ benefits of living here are incongruous and that they need to make it so.
 
Some absolutely disgusting comments in here but then this is GD so doesn't surprise me one bit.

As for the girl that was killed recently, I have no sympathy for her but her family must be in pieces. She knew what she was doing, went there and decided oh damn this isn't what I expected it to be and wanted to come home but looks like a Russian bomb put her in an early grave.

Any other stupid Muslims going there to fight for ISIS, if they get killed I have zero sympathy for them. The people I feel sorry for are the families who have to live with this for the rest of their lives v
 
Jono said:
I see/hear the local Tower Hamlets MP sounding off about how it's the Government's fault for not listening to the Muslim community and how [the government] should be doing more to help children not become radicalised.

/sigh.

How about the Muslim community try a bit of parenting and explain how/why IS' ideology is completely wrong/not what Islam is about?

Good riddance to the dead one, imho.
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It's not much of a family unit that claims zero knowledge of a 15 year old girl's plans and no suspicion of radicalisation, and allows them to up sticks and find the funds to head to Syria to join, in every sense of the word, IS, is it? One might think denial of suspicion of their intent or ideology hard to comprehend, if not believe. Given the constant implementation of new laws, changed laws, and general fiddling with the statute book, is it that hard for the PC brigade to be forced to accept changes of, and application of, the treason laws to be made?

Internment needs to be introduced for those citizens mindful of anti national plotting and their supporters, who are quite possibly family members, or ideologically associated with youngsters schooling. Taking the next step and leaving all association with the ECHR should be a priority for the UK.
 
RaohNS said:
Jihadi Jamal is the name I give to Jihadi John as I think the John distracts overwhelmingly from the reality.
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Just call him Mohammed Emwazi, then you're about as realistic as you can get. As for his family, they can state whatever they want, it doesn't really affect anything.
 
For instance, after the three Bethnal Green schoolgirls went to Syria, the father of one of them – Abase Hussen – was all over the media looking teary, hugging a teddy bear and berating the police for not stopping his daughter from going to Syria. How might she have imbibed her radical ideas, he was asked. ‘Total mystery’ was the gist of his reply each time. Mr Hussen soon appeared in front of Keith Vaz’s media-hungry Home Affairs Select Committee and used the opportunity to blame the police again. Soon the police were hauled before the same committee and given a very tough time of it. Why didn’t they know what Mr Hussen claimed not to know about the girl sleeping in the next door room to him? One might at this stage point out that one of the criticisms of Prevent is ‘spying’ yet each time the authorities miss something they are asked why they don’t spy more than anyone possibly could. But ‘police failure’ is always such an easy thing to grandstand over.

But what was this? A couple of weeks later and a video emerged of sweet old teddy-cuddling Mr Hussen at a demonstration outside the American Embassy in London in 2012. Led by Anjem Choudary and standing alongside one of the killers of Lee Rigby (and this time without his teddy) the video of the demo shows a shrieking Mr Hussen next to a burning American flag while standing behind a banner that reads, ‘The followers of Mohammed will conquer America’.

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/0...roblem/?_ga=1.206534675.1412739653.1411401623
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She's just another victim of Islam.
 
Skunkworks said:
I’m not sure what the biggest long-term risk is, Islam or the naïve left that enables it.
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Nativity and complacency/hubris are always the biggest danger - if we are prepared to face the realities of something and exercise some precaution we can deal with almost anything.

Nothing grinds my gears like the appeasement and/or setting an example (putting down arms/non-aggression), etc. perspective as I've seen it war gamed over and over and over and it never works.
 
"Radical cleric Anjem Choudary guilty of inviting IS support" "He faces up to 10 years in jail"

It's about time the scum was put in jail.
 
Was just listening to a podcast which was talking about how to defeat the Islamic State. I liked the idea of re-introducing a Pheonix Program and set its sights on jihadis around the world. For info the Pheonix Program was developed by the CIA as a counter-terror tactic aimed at the Viet Cong. It was enormously successful. That's the sort of thing we have to do if we don't want the Islamic State taking over more and more conquered territories - including our own.
 
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