ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

The trouble is these days that they'll claim responsibility for me having a particularly foul smelling dump.
 
Another issue is how do you stop a group who has support from many hundreds of thousands, the sympathy of millions and the quiet backing of tens of millions of dollars from SA and other Emirate rulers.

Either way, I think the Arab League should start getting their bloodied hands dirty with ISIS and take some of the refugees.

Unfortunately Saudi are our "friends" which is why there is no/little condemnation of their actions in Yemen that are killing thousands of civilians and their consistent targeting schools and hospitals.
 
For the umpteenth time... Who started the trouble in every country you mention, scorza?

Syria: Arab spring started by Julian Assange's wikileaks.
Ukraine: Russia, by invading and then annexing Crimea.
Georgia: Russia again I'm afraid old boy. We've all seen how their citizens love going on holiday to war zones and taking part in the fighting. This included the separatist areas of Georgia and shelling innocent civilians in the non-Russian parts.

At this moment in time, I would rather have Assad than anything the opposition may be. Once the evil of ISIS is scourged we can then move to transition. Sadly, the export of democracy doesn't bode well in countries where the people detest it.

My analysis is that the Islamic State are a tool used by the Assad regime. They allowed thousands of jihadis to cross their border into Iraq in 2003. When the civil war started they set free thousands of jihadis to go and strengthen the IS. Even now they're not really fighting IS and the Russian air force has been supporting IS and Russian engineers even working in IS controlled oil refineries.
 
Unfortunately Saudi are our "friends" which is why there is no/little condemnation of their actions in Yemen that are killing thousands of civilians and their consistent targeting schools and hospitals.

Quite, I've stopped my usual followings of the SA actions in Yemen as of late but its an area of the world the usual suspects are not showing us.

Syria: Arab spring started by Julian Assange's wikileaks.

With full backing assurance guaranteed by none other than the US. Which is why only 3% of materiel can be accounted for. What was it? 150m weapons and they don't know where it went?

Ukraine: Russia, by invading and then annexing Crimea.

No, caused by the US meddling and the intercepted and released phone call (the "what about the EU?". US official: "**** the EU"). Do you ever question scorza why Poroshenko is in power? Look him up... More than edifying

Georgia: Russia again I'm afraid old boy. We've all seen how their citizens love going on holiday to war zones and taking part in the fighting. This included the separatist areas of Georgia and shelling innocent civilians in the non-Russian parts.

.... You do know Russian troops were the only fighting force defending and clearing civilians out yes? As you like the unusual news sites, why not see what US and CIA directions were in Georgia and particularly South Ossetia. Its many moons since I read the truth of the matter.

TheStig knows what I'm talking about by the sounds of it.

If Russia are in the wrong I am more than happy to say, but on none of these were they.
 
I wonder if it is just a coincidence that the US bombed the **** of Assad's troops and then within the hour the US's favourite terrorist group moved in took over the newly vacated position?
 
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Lol. Over-react much?

It's things like that that stop you having any credible points of view at all. Ever.
 
It kind of puts the lie to the notion that fighting ISIS in Syria means anything other than fighting alongside mass-murdering, used chemical-weapons-on-his-own-people Assad doesn't it? Funny that we very nearly joined in a war against Assad two years earlier.

Bombing Syria in the absence of an actual plan is feckless at best.
 
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