ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

Depleted uranium is used as armour piercing ammo. You use armour piercing on tanks and fortified emplacements. Not to casually shoot people from small arms.

Edit: which of course you know because you read the link you posted.

Edit 2: and that still doesn't explain why DU is worse than chemical bombs. Surely both are bad?

US fired depleted uranium at civilian areas in 2003 Iraq war, report finds

not all chemicals are the same tho, DU effects on people from the second gulf war are still around, do you think chlorine bombs will affect people in the same time duration


Answer the question I asked.

Your source only says some people believe something. Doesn't mean it's true. Millions of children believe in Santa. Is he therefore real?
no I don't support isis or the moderate jihadists that you and robocod defend
 
US fired depleted uranium at civilian areas in 2003 Iraq war, report finds

not all chemicals are the same tho, DU effects on people from the second gulf war are still around, do you think chlorine bombs will affect people in the same time duration



no I don't support isis or the moderate jihadists that you and robocod defend

Please show my defence of them.

You're the one who everything someone posts a criticism of assad attempts a pathetic deflection.

'But but look what America did'

Get it in to your skull that this isn't about saying someone else is bad too. This is about the fact that peaceful protests were oppressed and a giant crap storm arose. Those that are suffering are the innocents.
 
Please show my defence of them.

You're the one who everything someone posts a criticism of assad attempts a pathetic deflection.

'But but look what America did'

Get it in to your skull that this isn't about saying someone else is bad too. This is about the fact that peaceful protests were oppressed and a giant crap storm arose. Those that are suffering are the innocents.

He has chosen, many times, to ignore the fact they were peaceful protests. He appears to have skipped to the point that they took up arms instead. It's all very easy when you create your facts.

Clueless.
 
Seriously its been 7 years, this crap about what happened on day 1 is completely pointless now, just stop trying one up each other. Jesus.

There are no saints in war. (Actors i mean)
 
Seriously its been 7 years, this crap about what happened on day 1 is completely pointless now, just stop trying one up each other. Jesus.

There are no saints in war. (Actors i mean)

If day 1 had gone differently we probably wouldn't be here. That's not the point being made.
Also there are saints. They certainly ain't the people gassing their own citizens though.
 
If day 1 had gone differently we probably wouldn't be here. That's not the point being made.
Also there are saints. They certainly ain't the people gassing their own citizens though.

I don't count the likes of MSF as Actors in a war.
That is entirely the realm of nations.
 
Please show my defence of them.

You're the one who everything someone posts a criticism of assad attempts a pathetic deflection.

'But but look what America did'

Get it in to your skull that this isn't about saying someone else is bad too. This is about the fact that peaceful protests were oppressed and a giant crap storm arose. Those that are suffering are the innocents.

crapstorm happen by outside influences as in when countries like Turkey and Saudi Arabia alarm the West by backing Islamist extremists the Americans had bombed in Syria or when In Syria, militias armed by the Pentagon fight those armed by the CIA
 
Some bizarre conclusions there uber :confused:
It really isn't, I explained why their evidence is not actual evidence but hearsay, and I gave a detailed explanation of why what they say makes no logical sense, then I drew the most likely conclusion. That's not bizarre it's rational, of course it could be wrong, but it's most likely correct.
 
It really isn't, I explained why their evidence is not actual evidence but hearsay, and I gave a detailed explanation of why what they say makes no logical sense, then I drew the most likely conclusion. That's not bizarre it's rational, of course it could be wrong, but it's most likely correct.

No.

It's your opinion, that's all. It is not a factual expert conclusion on matters. Therefore it is not necessarily "the most likely".
 
It's your opinion, that's all. It is not a factual expert conclusion on matters.
I shall reiterate:

1: I explained why what they claim as their "evidence" is not actually evidence.
2: I gave a detailed explanation of why what they say makes absolutely no logical sense.
3: I then pointed out that it's unlikely what they say is true (I drew the most likely conclusion from the facts available, not opinion but analysis).

Again it's not a bizarre conclusion it's rational, of course it could well be wrong, but with the information currently available it's the most likely one.
 
I shall reiterate:

1: I explained why what they claim as their "evidence" is not actually evidence.
2: I gave a detailed explanation of why what they say makes absolutely no logical sense.
3: I then pointed out that it's unlikely what they say is true (I drew the most likely conclusion from the facts available, not opinion but analysis).

Again it's not a bizarre conclusion it's rational, of course it could well be wrong, but with the information currently available it's the most likely one.

2: It claims it happened in Aleppo. To put that in perspective, while all the fighting was going on in Aleppo between the rebels/loyalists neither side took out the city's power station or tried to cut the other off from it (because both having power was preferable to neither). Considering that level of planning/sense it seems ludicrous that the side controlling the majority of the city (the bigger target) would use chemical weapons on the smaller side thus opening themselves up to retaliatory action in kind.

This bit. You can't possibly know this, or make this assumption. Hence bizzare.
 
Using armour piercing rounds on oil tankers in 2 ISIS convoys in November is FAR WORSE than ISIS using chlorine bombs? That would be the case if you support ISIS i guess, otherwise i'm not seeing it?
DU rounds create dust and contaminate the area around them. It's not just what they were being used to destroy.
 
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