This argument isn't worth starting, but America's Sin is not absolved because Russia is mentioned/involved. A century of malevolence does what it will to a nation unwilling to accept it. Russia has a reason for it's own, America sure as hell doesn't.
ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.
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No one said it wasn't. It's all just very odd that one nation, guilty of bombing civilians, should be heralded as fantastic and with much respect, and the other isn't. It's very black and white for some people it seems. Almost like supporting a football team. Very odd.
Caporegime
Got to love the championing of all things Russian here... Yet the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, Syrian Network for Human Rights and Violations Documentation Centre all report Russian air strikes have resulted in them killing more civilians than they have ISIS. They also claim a greater proportion of civilian deaths than International Coalition there.
Since they like to use unguided and cluster bombs, thats unsurprising. Had these stats apply to the US instead, I'm sure there would be much hooning about it here from the usual shills. On the contrary, it's the usual bemoaning of UAV strikes....
Russians are hardcore, so much respect for those guys....hahhaa
There wouldn't be an FSA ruining the country had the US not prompted them to do so.
The rules of engagement are blurred for sure with the FSA hiding amongst the civilians. But still I don't think russia would ever take the backward rules of engagement that our troops do/did in places like Afghanistan, where unless the enemy is basically putting his gun barrel up your backside, you can't fire back..
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While avoiding civilian casualties is laudable, the West hamstrings itself into near impotence, and ISIS et al knew it.
Caporegime
Say the Russian defence ministry. Independent observers say he was captured and died afterwards.
I know which I'm more likely to believe although neither are any better than the other.
Soldato
Stupid move Turkey....
Soldato
No. So says the video footage.
Caporegime
Got a link? I've not seen it.
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Google Russian pilot last stand
Ah frag it, let me just post it.
At the start, you can hear one or two pistol shots, he also shouts something in Russian that is translated as "This is it for the boys" as he uses the grenade.
https://www.facebook.com/rabea.kala...265689306920/1345571555542993/?type=3&theater
This link shows the pistol he had and 3 magazines, one empty, other 2 half empty.
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Soldato
Yeah, I'm not going to be posting that on here. I don't want a forced holiday. So, imagine the cat toy is the pilot and the cats are the terrorists.
It's a bit more violent than that, but you get the rough idea.
Caporegime
Done, ta. None the wiser from that like but yeah, d3finitely wasn't a prisoner.
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Updated my post with the video if you still unable to find it. There is meant to be a much longer video out there that shows a lot more, I believe people have said, they was shooting at him as he fell down after ejection.
There is no gore in it, you don't see any body, pretty safe to watch.
Haha @ the cat.gif is a perfect example of what happened really.
If no one is using it already, this https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/ reddit page is pretty much the current news on what is happening over there.
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Caporegime
Thing Is, not many go down fighting.
Otherwise how did the Japanese get hundreds of thousands if British pow in ww2.
And how would a bit or any other militaey man ever get taken prisoner?
Caporegime
Nah I found the vid with your search term but thanks. And yeah, cat .gif is brilliant. Like I say, dude defo wasn't a prisoner!
Caporegime
I don't know. Maybe? Any proof she wasn't? Any proof she wasn't a fellow Russian and the whole thing is staged? Nope. Or you could just stop the stupid posts?
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I wouldn't want to be captured by head choppers too, these guys in that video are not "moderate" in anyway, not as bad as ISIS, but that Russian was dead one way or the other.
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Yeah, I don't imagine he was going to get hugs and kisses from them. Still struggling to make anything out from a few views of that vid though. What I won't forget was the guy who called in the arti strike on himself. Now that was bravery.
So impotent, they swatted Isis out of Syria and Iraq.
Yet leave them to fester in Pakistan like usual, and allow Afghanistan to return to Taliban rule, they have headway in some manner in the Philippines and some African states. Battling one enemy while you let others build up is not winning, it's purposefully allowing a field to exist.
Not like they were going to offer him terms of surrender, etc.