Yeah, rich isn't it?
ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.
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Yeah, rich isn't it?
Because liberating your own land isn't a land grab.
The whole thing is a total mess really, they describe rebel extremists as "moderates" because they are less extreme than ISIS, but ignore the fact there's nothing moderate about beheading Christians/Jews for being infidels and hacking captured soldiers up while they're still alive. Now it's gotten to the point where they have had to break ties with the original rebels they supported as their extremism and links to groups like Al-Qaeda have become undefendable. It's a total mess over there.
Ideal solution would be for the Syrian and Kurdish forces to defeat the rebel/ISIS extremists and then the Kurds to be rewarded by being given autonomy in the north, sadly the USA have boxed themselves into a right corner by trying to paint the "moderate" extremists as better than the Syrian loyalist forces (lol) and they can't become reasonable now without looking weak, and we know how idiots like Putin and Trump feel about looking weak /sigh.
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Yes, gassing and bombing cities full of civilians = much better (lol??).
Agenda.
Agenda.
Is Scotland, Scotland's land, or is it the UKs? Are Scotland allowed to state their own land is theirs and be an independent state? Clearly not a like for like comparison, just interested to know if Scottish people should be allowed to determine their own future about what they claim to be their land, in your opinion?
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BBC have reported the French military stated an Israeli jet has been shot down while attacking Iranian forces in Syria, the police has been retrieved safe.
WTF?
I was of the belief that Iranian forces were fighting against Isis. Are the Israeli forces having their own party or are they part of a joint allied effort?
Seems an odd combo of names and events, and will no doubt fuel instability further in the region.
WTF?
I was of the belief that Iranian forces were fighting against Isis. Are the Israeli forces having their own party or are they part of a joint allied effort?
Seems an odd combo of names and events, and will no doubt fuel instability further in the region.
Israel always having their own party - they've been trying to push conflict away from the border region since the war broke out - even if that means engaging targets into Syria.
There was talk at one point of Iranian/Syrian efforts to push into the Golan Heights once things were wrapped up in Syria, which didn't exactly make Israel happy, but I'm guessing they are a bit too busy for that.
There was talk at one point of Iranian/Syrian efforts to push into the Golan Heights once things were wrapped up in Syria, which didn't exactly make Israel happy, but I'm guessing they are a bit too busy for that.
I'll never believe USA propaganda unless there is no oil fields around.
You deny that Assad has bombed civilians?
No different to when everyone else bombs cities, didn't gracious America bomb a hospital full of MSF? But it's alright if the Allies do it i guess, as long as they apologise, its entirely justified.
america seems to count anyone whos against the syrian government as civilians who have taken up arms but remain civilians and pump out more propaganda than nazi germany
There is no one innocents when it comes to Syria and some parties being worse or just as bad doesn't excuse any one.
If you follow some of the earliest accounts in some of the cities the initial uprising were basically civilians and students, lightly armed and often disorganised - a few weeks later they were replaced by or organised by heavily armed forces with extremist Islam links.
If you follow some of the earliest accounts in some of the cities the initial uprising were basically civilians and students, lightly armed and often disorganised - a few weeks later they were replaced by or organised by heavily armed forces with extremist Islam links.
Didn't the scottish people decide their own future in 2014 with a referendum and voted to remain part of the united kingdom?
and if you want to talk about civilians and war crimes why don't we talk about americas use of white phosphorous in populated areas?
never seen someone so biased that believes all the crap that comes from the people whos only agenda is to remove assad and gain control of oil fields.
is america fighting isis in africa? you can bet your bottom dollar it would be if africa suddenly discovered oil deposits on that continent.
Caporegime
Um...nigeria? Angola? Countries with massive oil resources.
Yes
You missed my point, so leave that conversation there.
Another simple yes/no question (you struggled to answer my last): do you believe the west target civilians?
I believe the west targets so called isis or syrian forces regardless of whether civilian casualties will ensue.
Wasn't their a report recently going around reported that under the trump administration there has been more civilian deaths than during the whole obama period
Not really surprising though as during Trump's time in power ISIS have been largely pushed back into besieged urban areas reducing the chances to engage them in the open (one of the reasons for the controversial decisions to let them leave in some cases).