ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

Yet leave them to fester in Pakistan like usual, and allow Afghanistan to return to Taliban rule, they have headway in some manner in the Philippines and some African states. Battling one enemy while you let others build up is not winning, it's purposefully allowing a field to exist.

Funny that, the US have sent a lot of assets back to Afghanistan and there are ongoing operations in some African states. "Purposely allowing a field to exist". Alright CT nut.
 
That Russian pilot had some balls. Not only did he fight off a wave of terrorists with his pistol but, upon being overrun by them, shouted something along the lines of "this is for all the dead Russians" before pulling the pin on a grenade and taking a few of the scum with him.

Sounds like the scene in Black Hawk Down when Super Six-Four was shot down.
 
Funny that, the US have sent a lot of assets back to Afghanistan and there are ongoing operations in some African states. "Purposely allowing a field to exist". Alright CT nut.

Do you mean to tell me that the worlds largest military ever (in peace time no less) is unable to defeat a few delinquents?

Do explain why the the Saudi's are still seemingly untouched to this day for their murder of Americans in 2001?
 
Do you mean to tell me that the worlds largest military ever (in peace time no less) is unable to defeat a few delinquents?

Do explain why the the Saudi's are still seemingly untouched to this day for their murder of Americans in 2001?
You make it all sound so easy! It's great to see we have so many experts on this forum.
 
No one said it wasn't. It's all just very odd that one nation, guilty of bombing civilians, should be heralded as fantastic and with much respect, and the other isn't.
The world isn't as black and white as you see it. You can be critical of Russian actions/policy AND critical of US actions/policy AND still give a Russian pilot props for going down like a hero.
 
The world isn't as black and white as you see it. You can be critical of Russian actions/policy AND critical of US actions/policy AND still give a Russian pilot props for going down like a hero.

Dearest uberexpert, you seem to be just repeating me now.
. It's very black and white for some people it seems. Almost like supporting a football team.
 
Dearest uberexpert, you seem to be just repeating me now.
I was just pointing out how you seem to see everything in black and white, how we're apparently only allowed to support/deride the actions of the USA or Russia, etc. But your whataboutism is misguided because the world isn't black and white, we CAN be critical of the US and/or Russia without being hypocrites.

It's not like World of Warcraft where you can only support/oppose one factions actions.
 
What with Turkey expanding its scope of operation and the US still having an interest in some parts wonder where things will lead as there is no obvious compromise and sooner or later someone is gonna have to retreat (or escalate).

Well by rights, once IS is completely swept up, the US would remove it's assets out of Syria, Inherent Resolve job done. Fact will be, it's impossible to completely remove IS.

Many US assets have already been moved to Afghanistan where they couldn't clean up their mess before. So I think the US will just maintain a small advisory (SF) presence along with a number of MQ1/9 assets for a long time now. Just enough to provide surveillance and SDF to continue some presence.

Russia aren't going anywhere. I don't envisage any big conflict between them, neither side wants that. Who knows what will come of Turkish and Iranian influence.
 
Hmm, odd how they described those 'Beatles' as using horrific torture methods....and then said water boarding

I guess it's only torture when the bad guys do it.
 
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