ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

deuse · 8 Oct 2015 at 13:07

Evangelion said:
There are plenty of Syrian regime torture videos on ********.

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That's not very nice at all. But the British used to shoot anyone not doing what they were told
and the Argentinians shot their solders in the feet to stop them running.

deuse · 8 Oct 2015 at 13:10

Evangelion said:
Evidence please. Try reading that article..

We both haven't got any evidence
well unless you're there? are you? no thought not. How's the IS problem in aussie going?

McGray · 8 Oct 2015 at 13:11

I see deuse is derping all over the internet again....

ubersonic · 8 Oct 2015 at 13:18

mmj_uk said:
My point is if it hadn't been pointed out that they were from the so called Free Syrian Army you'd have just assumed they were IS from the way they behaved. Do the two groups have different uniforms or wear badges so we know which is which?

One waves Syrian flags, one waves ISIS flags lol.

scorza said:
How are the Syrian army going to fight the Islamic State if they can't even beat the poorly armed/equipped rebels on their front line?

If the west hadn't been backing the rebels and hampering the army then the rebels would have been crushed before ISIS hit the scene and then they would have been beaten back to Iraq.

deuse said:
Russia is doing what I would have done and carpet bomb them.

The Americans are carpet bombing (as well as using drones ofc), Russia is using precision satellite guided bombs dropped by multi-role fighters and cruise missiles fired from ships.

arknor · 8 Oct 2015 at 13:47

do you guys even know what carpet bombing is? no one is doing it with drones

This is carpet bombing ie flattening a large area with a carpet of explosives

Jdamn hardly count as carpet bombing either they might destroy a huge area but they are guided bombs with precision

Rroff · 8 Oct 2015 at 13:52

^^ Don't think anyone was inferring they were using drones to carpet bomb.

What constitutes carpet bombing can be a little subjective at times but yeah not much of the action in Syria qualifies as carpet bombing.

ubersonic · 8 Oct 2015 at 13:55

arknor said:
Jdamn hardly count as carpet bombing either they might destroy a huge area but they are guided bombs with precision

Yeah, the US were using B1b Lancer strategic bombers to drop precision munitions :rolleyes:

deuse · 8 Oct 2015 at 14:01

McGray said:
I see deuse is derping all over the internet again....

What's "derping" or what does it mean where you come from?(never seen\heard of it)

ubersonic said:
One waves Syrian flags, one waves ISIS flags lol.

If the west hadn't been backing the rebels and hampering the army then the rebels would have been crushed before ISIS hit the scene and then they would have been beaten back to Iraq.

The Americans are carpet bombing (as well as using drones ofc), Russia is using precision satellite guided bombs dropped by multi-role fighters and cruise missiles fired from ships.

Thank you.

Rroff said:
^^ Don't think anyone was inferring they were using drones to carpet bomb.

What constitutes carpet bombing can be a little subjective at times but yeah not much of the action in Syria qualifies as carpet bombing.

Thank you

scorza · 8 Oct 2015 at 14:01

Evangelion said:
There are plenty of Syrian regime torture videos on ********.

* Syrian Army torturing its own soldiers
* Syrian Army torturing civilian (warning: *very graphic*)

... and these are the people that some in this thread would have us back militarily. Not in my name.

oulton · 8 Oct 2015 at 14:17

Putin you are a bloody legend, keep on killing US backed ISIS scum.

Terminal_Boy · 8 Oct 2015 at 14:26

ubersonic said:
Yeah, the US were using B1b Lancer strategic bombers to drop precision munitions

They hit the wrong target with great precision.

deuse · 8 Oct 2015 at 14:35

oulton said:
Putin you are a bloody legend, keep on killing US\Israel and Saudi Arabia backed ISIS scum.

ak22 · 8 Oct 2015 at 14:46

oulton said:
Putin you are a bloody legend, keep on killing US backed ISIS scum.

gettothechopper · 8 Oct 2015 at 15:20

oulton said:
Putin you are a bloody legend, keep on killing US backed ISIS scum.

You get the award for most completely backwards post of the day - well done! :rolleyes:

USA has been fighting (the opposite of backing) ISIS since about 2003
Russia sends 10% of its airstrikes in 2 days at ISIS and Putin is the "legend"?

twist3d0n3 · 8 Oct 2015 at 15:21

gettothechopper said:
You get the award for most completely backwards post of the day - well done!

dowie · 8 Oct 2015 at 15:28

McGray said:
I see deuse is derping all over the internet again....

standard

Tefal · 8 Oct 2015 at 15:36

scorza said:
How are the Syrian army going to fight the Islamic State if they can't even beat the poorly armed/equipped rebels on their front line? Besides, the Syrian regime are definitely not the good guys in this, they're the worst of a very bad lot (yes, even worse than IS - they just don't upload videos of their torture/murders to ********).

they aren't poorly armed and equipped we've spent millions well equipping and arming them

scorza · 8 Oct 2015 at 15:44

Tefal said:
they aren't poorly armed and equipped we've spent millions well equipping and arming them

The only support they've received from the west has been non-lethal. Any arms they've received haven't come from us (more likely Saudi, Qatar, Turkey). Western policy of non-interference in Syria has just dragged the conflict out.

Tefal · 8 Oct 2015 at 15:46

scorza said:
The only support they've received from the west has been non-lethal. Any arms they've received haven't come from us (more likely Saudi, Qatar, Turkey). Western policy of non-interference in Syria has just dragged the conflict out.

publicly you mean.

i think there have been enough incidents such as Iran contra to show that we don't publicly say all the arms deals we do...

ubersonic · 8 Oct 2015 at 15:57

Tefal said:
publicly you mean.

i think there have been enough incidents such as Iran contra to show that we don't publicly say all the arms deals we do...

Giving the Taliban anti air missiles (and Rambo) to help them against Russia, and that in no way came back to haunt the US lol.