ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

h4rm0ny said:
But I'm trying to answer your question. :D Tell me what it is that you think I need to be doing that I'm not in order to be suitable to comment here and I'll be able to tell you if I'm doing them or not. Also, isn't it rather petty to refuse to answer? It's a very simple question. Or are we going to have a repeat here with us going round and round with you finding ways and reasons not to answer it.
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So the answer to a question is to respond with a question? Ha. Are you a politician?
 
RoboCod said:
So the answer to a question is to respond with a question? Ha. Are you a politician?
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I asked for a clarification. Not quite the same thing. Your question in essence: "Prove to me you're doing something to show you care." As publicly countering misinformation plainly doesn't count as doing something to you (given that's what you're objecting to), I'm curious what could count. If you tell me, I can answer your question. If you don't tell me what counts, how am I supposed to? Surely a couple of examples at least, of what would meet your standards are not too much to ask.
 
RoboCod said:
Well I did create the thread... *shrug*
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So what?

Are you really going to sit here for the rest of your life calling people cretins and burst out into tears when they type something you dont like...all at the same time unconvincingly claiming you dont care.

Its just a thread, get over it and move on.
Besides doesn't 007 have a world to save and 100's of women to please.
 
Amnesia said:
So what?

Are you really going to sit here for the rest of your life calling people cretins and burst out into tears when they type something you dont like...all at the same time unconvincingly claiming you dont care.

Its just a thread, get over it and move on.
Besides doesn't 007 have a world to save and 100's of women to please.
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Yes, I'm balling my eyes out here :D :D

Gets asked a question, doesn't like question, resorts to ad hominem. Who is the one crying, really? Haha. You're scared.
 
RoboCod said:
Yes, I'm balling my eyes out here :D :D

Gets asked a question, doesn't like question, resorts to ad hominem. Who is the one crying, really? Haha. You're scared.
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We're all scared. Stupidity like yours is terrifying.

In any case, it seems plain that you want to avoid actually clarifying your question in any terms that would allow it to be answered. You want to attack people for saying something and claim they're just virtue signalling. But not have to actually give any example of what would be necessary for you to accept that they weren't. Mainly because there isn't anything that wouldn't make you look wildly unreasonable and shoot down your own argument. This is unprofitable at this point - you're not really worth the time.
 
h4rm0ny said:
I think whilst RoboCod's weaponised nihilism has provided a bit of welcome comic relief to the thread, it's pretty much a sideshow to the more substantive and productive back and forth with Rroff and others. So though I still await Robocod's answer to what exactly I should be doing that I'm not, I'm not going to hold my breath or invest much more in this.
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Yea looks like he has had a mental break down, he sent me a private message straight to my email from these forums, weirdly i cant read it on the forum itself.
 
EvilSooty said:
It was obviously about oil.
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Yes, the big master plan to take control of Iraq's oil production from Russia, China, etc and see it redistributed to......Russia, China, etc :P

NB: I'm not saying that no US/UK companies have contracts for oil production in Iraq, they do, but the common myth that it was all about oil is pretty dumb when you consider that most of the contracts went back to the companies that had them previously and that the increased oil production by Iraq after the rennovation of fields still damaged from Desert Storm actually reduced the value of US/UK oil. Also factor in that Iraq pays oil firms a fixed amount per barrel for extraction (the rest going to Iraq) and BP aren't even going to break even on their post 2003 investment in the forseeable future.
 
ubersonic said:
Yes, the big master plan to take control of Iraq's oil production from Russia, China, etc and see it redistributed to......Russia, China, etc :p

NB: I'm not saying that no US/UK companies have contracts for oil production in Iraq, they do, but the common myth that it was all about oil is pretty dumb when you consider that most of the contracts went back to the companies that had them previously and that the increased oil production by Iraq after the rennovation of fields still damaged from Desert Storm actually reduced the value of US/UK oil. Also factor in that Iraq pays oil firms a fixed amount per barrel for extraction (the rest going to Iraq) and BP aren't even going to break even on their post 2003 investment in the forseeable future.
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Well, it certainly is interesting that the areas of the world in which our government has a deep commitment to human rights neatly overlaps with areas where there are governments with independent or anti-western foreign policies sitting atop huge oil and mineral reserves or those allied with them.

I'm sure it's a coincidence.

Amazing how interested in the plight of the poor people of Venezuela we are isn't it? And nothing at all to do with them sitting on the largest oil reserves in the world.

I mean, it's difficult to not see the pattern in countries chosen for regime-change wars. If you read the US embassy cables published by Wikileaks from the embassies in Syria and Libya that was all they were interested in.

Nothing at all about human rights.

I read somewhere that war teaches you geography.

Why is it that I can name all the countries in oil-rich regions off the top of my head, but most of sub-Saharan Africa might as well be blacked out on the map? Huge wars killing millions there, but zero 'something must be done' calls from our press & gov.

Gee, I wonder why. Possibly because they have nothing worth looting.
 
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viathinair said:
The MIC/defence industry profitted waaay more from Iraq than oil companies.
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Yeah, probably a combination. The MIC is huge also and there must always be an enemy to justify it.

When the Soviet Union broke up there was some Russian (can't remember who!) who said that they had done the cruelest thing possible to the US: deprived it of an enemy.

They struggled for a few years, but then came Al Qaeda who they are now allied with in Syria. Russia is fulfilling the enemy status once again at the moment.
 
Anyway, it's now over two weeks since the leaked OPCW report that pretty much confirms that the alleged chemical weapons attack in Syria last year in Douma was a lie and that we bombed Syria illegally risking war with Russia on the word of jihadis and the White Helmets whom our government funds.

To date in the corporate and state BBC press there has only been a single article from Robert Fisk of the Independent and a series of articles from Peter Hitchens of the Mail on Sunday reporting this.

Compares this to the hundreds of articles spreading the lie from the time.

Of course the independent media (Morning Star, Consortium News, Zero Hedge etc) along with the Russian press have reported this extensively.

What a ******* disgrace. A media blackout on a report this important when the same corporate hacks immediately report evidence-free claims from Al Qaeda in Idlib that they were gassed a few days ago.

Zero from the BBC who did countlees articles about Douma. Nothing to say now when it has been shown to be a hoax.

Convenient.

The leaked report, which has gone into the memory hole, is linked to here.

http://syriapropagandamedia.org/wor...lleged-chemical-attack-in-douma-in-april-2018
 
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EvilSooty said:
Anyway, it's now over two weeks since the leaked OPCW report that pretty much confirms that the alleged chemical weapons attack in Syria last year in Douma was a lie and that we bombed Syria illegally risking war with Russia on the word of jihadis and the White Helmets whom our government funds.

To date in the corporate and state BBC press there has only been a single article from Robert Fisk of the Independent and a series of articles from Peter Hitchens of the Mail on Sunday reporting this.

Compares this to the hundreds of articles spreading the lie from the time.

Of course the independent media (Morning Star, Consortium News, Zero Hedge etc) along with the Russian press have reported this extensively.

What a ******* disgrace. A media blackout on a report this important when the same corporate hacks immediately report evidence-free claims from Al Qaeda in Idlib that they were gassed a few days ago.

Zero from the BBC who did countlees articles about Douma. Nothing to say now when it has been shown to be a hoax.

Convenient.

The leaked report, which has gone into the memory hole, is linked to here.

http://syriapropagandamedia.org/wor...lleged-chemical-attack-in-douma-in-april-2018
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Interesting when you dig into the "doctors" and "professors" who publish these reports. One shining example, Vanessa Beeley.

Interesting that their own page has to state

The group is entirely independent, open to academics and independent researchers and is not aligned to any state or non-state actor. In line with ethical expectations, the research group is committed to the upholding of international law and human rights norms.
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I mean, really? And who doesn't have an agenda anyway?

Interesting that you seem to be spamming/regurtitating in the thread with similar propaganda. I wonder if you have a vested interest like these "professors" or that you're just another person being sucked into the whirlwind of misinformation.


#wokeAF... Right?
 
RoboCod said:
Interesting when you dig into the "doctors" and "professors" who publish these reports. One shining example, Vanessa Beeley.

Interesting that their own page has to state

I mean, really? And who doesn't have an agenda anyway?

Interesting that you seem to be spamming/regurtitating in the thread with similar propaganda. I wonder if you have a vested interest like these "professors" or that you're just another person being sucked into the whirlwind of misinformation.

#wokeAF... Right?
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Irrelevant.

The leaked report is genuine (confirmed by the OPCW themselves) so not being able to argue against its contents and implications you go down the 'shoot the messenger' line in a poor attempt to deflect.

How can a genuine report from the OPCW be considered propaganda and 'misinformation'? Give me a laugh.

#stupidAF
 
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"irrelevant" :D :D too funny.

I could do this all day. Let me know when you want to look into the backgrounds of every other "professor" on that site.

It would be good if you were associated somehow, that would make for a more interesting discussion. However, I suspect you're just another WOKE individual, bent on reposting their cack (not that interesting).
 
RoboCod said:
"irrelevant" :D :D too funny.

I could do this all day. Let me know when you want to look into the backgrounds of every other "professor" on that site.

It would be good if you were associated somehow, that would make for a more interesting discussion. However, I suspect you're just another WOKE individual, bent on reposting their cack (not that interesting).
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Whooooooooooooossssshhh...there goes the point straight over your head and you are too dim to even realise it.
 
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