ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.

Don't exactly like the idea of them going that way, but an alliance with Iran would definitely serve their (and anyone else in the region) interests far better than any US "peace".
 
what is the turkish public wait to dethrone Erdogan? this guy is a lunatic! he is literally blackmailing europe by handing buses to illegal immigrants by the millions to Greece and Bulgaria! He has thrown secular turkey down the toilet, nobody likes anything turkish anymore. WTH?
 
Iraklis F.C. said:
what is the turkish public wait to dethrone Erdogan? this guy is a lunatic! he is literally blackmailing europe by handing buses to illegal immigrants by the millions to Greece and Bulgaria! He has thrown secular turkey down the toilet, nobody likes anything turkish anymore. WTH?
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Lol, he already dealt with that in the false-coup attempt.

Honestly don't know why Greece doesn't just take back Eastern (Northern?) Cyprus, Turkey is never going to play ball now, it's about time someone forced their hand.
 
The thing is, Erdogan can literally get away with genocide and funding ISIL (via oil smuggling, an operation ran by his Son-in-law, Berat Albayrak) because of Turkey's strategic position and because he holds the keys to Incirlik.
 
Malevolence said:
The thing is, Erdogan can literally get away with genocide and funding ISIL (via oil smuggling, an operation ran by his Son-in-law, Berat Albayrak) because of Turkey's strategic position and because he holds the keys to Incirlik.
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Lol at holding keys to a US base, if it seemed likely that it was to be overrun and the bunker failed along with the thousands of defenders, then the US wouldn't hesitate to destroy the compound with every cruise missile they have.
 
StriderX said:
Lol at holding keys to a US base, if it seemed likely that it was to be overrun and the bunker failed along with the thousands of defenders, then the US wouldn't hesitate to destroy the compound with every cruise missile they have.
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Though I'm not sure how much faith I have in the practical versus on paper the core US section of that base is heavily dug in with 2 perimeter walls and enough manpower and heavy weapons to hold out for reinforcement from other US assets in the region - none the least the US usually has at least one amphibious assault or carrier group within a few hours that alone compare to a small country for firepower.

Also policy if any entity was to look like over running the facility is literally the nuclear option on the table to discourage anyone else from thinking of it.
 
Iraklis F.C. said:
live now, turkish military are shooting in the air to force immigrants to cross the border, erdogan must be playing his last card!
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He seems to be burning all his bridges,
He's burning his bridges with Russia over Idlib (there's no way after backing Assad for nearly a decade and the war finally almost won that they'll help Turkey)
He burnt his bridges with the US by buying Russia's S-400's
Now he's burning any bridge he left with Europe by opening the refugee floodgates
 
Looks like Syria regime/Turkey are close to a proper clash after the last few hours... so much for those insistent earlier in the thread that Assad had "won" and it was just a mopping up exercise from that point (wasn't really that hard to see there is a lot of road still to go yet).

Minusorange said:
He seems to be burning all his bridges,
He's burning his bridges with Russia over Idlib (there's no way after backing Assad for nearly a decade and the war finally almost won that they'll help Turkey)
He burnt his bridges with the US by buying Russia's S-400's
Now he's burning any bridge he left with Europe by opening the refugee floodgates
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It is looking like he has outplayed himself - he is likely going to be forced now into a game of brinkmanship where he is likely going to have to back down and look weak and he hates that or go all in with pretty serious consequences.
 
Minusorange said:
He seems to be burning all his bridges,
He's burning his bridges with Russia over Idlib (there's no way after backing Assad for nearly a decade and the war finally almost won that they'll help Turkey)
He burnt his bridges with the US by buying Russia's S-400's
Now he's burning any bridge he left with Europe by opening the refugee floodgates
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No. He has Germany still unfortunately. Germany and Turkey (Ottoman Empire) go together over the last 200 years.

StriderX said:
Lol, he already dealt with that in the false-coup attempt.

Honestly don't know why Greece doesn't just take back Eastern (Northern?) Cyprus, Turkey is never going to play ball now, it's about time someone forced their hand.
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That is something everyone said the night of the coup in 2016. But Greece is not Israel, at least the politicians were chickens. Also this cannot happen without Cypriot-Greek forces going through the British controlled Neutral Zone not having British blessing. :)

We shall see. Erdogan has lost the ball and became so greedy through continuous appeasement* from all sides that found himself cornered tonight.
Does this remind you of someone else in recent history?


*He has announced the unilateral scrapping of the Treaty of Montreux & Treaty of Lausanne over year now and nobody said anything.
 
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