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I will say this. USA actively believes now that EU is their biggest foe. Do you believe then Britain is the only country that would leave over the next 5 years?

Ofc not. Keep a close eye to France & Italy and don't be surprised if Greece & Cyprus follow.
Yep, it’s mortally wounded and bleeding out. UK save Europe once more. :cool:
 
Even with brexit it is still our concern who joins the EU. If Turkey joined and became an open passage to Europe, it’d be like fending off the Spanish Armada along our coasts.

With all the storms we are now getting, it could be history repeating though. ;):D

Much of the Armada did try to launch from Holland and the low countries, afaik.
 
With all the storms we are now getting, it could be history repeating though. ;):D

Much of the Armada did try to launch from Holland and the low countries, afaik.

Spaniards. Lost couple of ships and run off. pah :D That wasn't a war tbh, more ships were lost in skirmishes around the Caribbean.

However lets talk about the second Anglo-Dutch war. Where the Dutch broke the defenses, sailed up in Thames. Burned the fleet and run off towing the HMS Unity & Royal Charles (the pride of the fleet) behind them all way to Netherlands. :D

Just citing history ignore :D
 
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I call it BS to be honest, if there are 3.500.000 syrian refugees in Turkey, as erdogan says there are, then where are they? Imagine his bluff exposed, the so called "ace" in his hands would vanish...and then what? Also, only the 10% of all these on the other side of the border is Syrian, the rest are a mixture from afghanistan to africa. According to Turks, he has caused chaos inside and war outside their borders, and for what? Their new geopolitical manifesto, the neo-ottomanism...as if Turkey is small for their needs and NEED a lebensraum asap.

Never the less, the events in Greece these days are a repeat of history, from the Persian wars to the fall of Constantinople till today it is a constant battle to keep the invaders out. I fear a wider war is imminent
 
Shoot a few. Once word spreads that attacking the border = eating a bullet, it'll stop.

That's what I say. And most Greeks say. Shoot them and be done with it. They will either come for more or go back where they came from.
Anyone not understanding this is hybrid warfare is stupid. Erdogan trying to put pressure on EU & NATO to help him fight his invasion of Syria without Russia been able to help it's ally (Syria) without starting WWIII.

That's what we have here. Play and simple. Pure blackmailing
 
It isnt in the Greek mentality to shoot an unarmed person, it is a sin. If they shoot first, then nemesis will commence. " ἄτη → ὕβρις → νέμεσις → τίσις" for those who know some greek, "arrogance brings divine justice, by an appropriate agent" a free translate lol
 
It isnt in the Greek mentality to shoot an unarmed person, it is a sin. If they shoot first, then nemesis will commence. " ἄτη → ὕβρις → νέμεσις → τίσις" for those who know some greek, "arrogance brings divine justice, by an appropriate agent" a free translate lol

I know but there is nothing else left. Nothing. They either invade and stay in the country as they cannot go anywhere, or die there without food, water in the cold. The more they stay there, the more pressure greece will get to take them in. Then the next 120,000 will arrive. And another 120,000
 
There is , time is what Erdogan cannot afford to waste. And time is running out for him, the ping-pong policy between USA and Russia has failed , he will get PHWNED by both of them, his economy is failing, and if he loose on the borders of Greece, the far right will demand explanations.

How arrogant and fool he is, to believe he can drag USA and Russia to war for his own benefit. As if the world is a fool and he is the clever guy.
 
Escalating today. Pushing the boats away with poles and shooting into the water to scare them into going back.

While Turkey continuously supply with tear gas the horde to throw to the Greek side.

Do you want them? They are British mess after all. Afghans, Pakistanis, Yemenis, Iraqis, Iranians, Syrians (ex ISIS members). Though among them are Somalians, Nigerians and Moors. (Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria) Many straight from Turkish prisons also. Would make great contribution to the society.

All these would lead to a far right government in Greece and the majority is really really angry for everything. From the economy, to living, to EU, to Euro and these above. Is a powder keg to explode.

But I bet Sweden would vote a far right government in before Greece. France is guaranteed to vote Marie in 2022.
 
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