ISPs to be ordered to boot illegal downloaders

metachi said:
if they do that then there's no reason for me to use 24mb broadband.
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Cue mass downgrade of internet connections nationwide and record lows in ISP revenue. :D

Seriously, this law will simply not pass. Internet in this country is a joke and piracy is probably keeping it afloat.
 
the faster the speeds the more there customers pirate

can't see ISP's kicking off customers in large numbers as they will go bust
 
What they seem to not realise that for many downloading movies, music etc is more to do with the fast availability and convenience.

I would much prefer a system where every internet user pays a set fee of around £5 on top of their current ISP charges; altogether this would make a pretty lump sum which could be divided amongst the media industry. Although I doubt any such offer would be considered has the industry are well known for being greedy which is another reason has too why piracy is so high.
 
Exactly, provide a way for me to get all the content legally and and let me do what I want with it (such as playshifting) and the problem wouldn't be half as bad, the customers are already in the future, it's the content providers that are living in the past. I'm sure the ISP's are against the idea of policing the Internet as much as the customers, it is a huge thing to take on and would involve many times more work than ISP's currently do, not to mention the costs.

If this did become widespread you can imagine the sort of stories appearing on Watchdog and such. Bittorrent already supports transport encryption which stops the ISP's from watching the traffic, it would only become more widespread if policing came about.
 
No victim in the majority of cases imo, and certainly not in mine.

Waste of time. The companies need to change rather than suing college kids.
 
All I can can see happening is the average person will no longer need an internet connection faster than 2mb so ISPs will lose millions and some ISPs will seize to exist, MP3, MP4 and Ipods will all of a sudden lose millions in sales and this law will not make people all of sudden go out and 4 or more DVDs a week they'll just won't watch hardly any movies.

All of this and I'm sure the movie and music industry will be no better off so all they'll have succeeded in doing is doing more damage to the economy then benefiting it.
 
In terms of using a neighbours wifi, i've a feeling courts/police would lay any blame at the feet of whoever owns the connection for not putting strong enough encryption in place.
 
If you did get caught you could just use the I don't download illegal files my wireless access point must have reset with no encryption or someone hacked in. How could they prove otherwise unless they actully had your pc.
 
oneilldo said:
If you did get caught you could just use the I don't download illegal files my wireless access point must have reset with no encryption or someone hacked in. How could they prove otherwise unless they actully had your pc.
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Depends on the ISP I guess. I am with Sky and the router comes "pre-secured" with a key written on a nice card and everything, so if you said that they'd just say "you screwed with the router, your fault" or something.

I'm sure Sky aren't the only ISP with such a policy in regards to the hardware.
 
Shellac said:
Well this is whole different kettle of fish.. Dodgy downloads will get you kicked off your ISP but not much else. Hijacking a wireless connection is a good ol' fashioned illegal activity that will get you in a heap more trouble.

"The Communications Act 2003 says a "person who (a) dishonestly obtains an electronic communications service, and (b) does so with intent to avoid payment of a charge applicable to the provision of that service, is guilty of an offence".
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And my friend who sits in his flat downloading constantly - with apparent impunity - by hijack is going to care about that? No.

Not saying its right, just the way it is.
 
PikeyPriest said:
In terms of using a neighbours wifi, i've a feeling courts/police would lay any blame at the feet of whoever owns the connection for not putting strong enough encryption in place.
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But what if you're a newb and dont understand it

Even guy said on news, they can't know what file you're downloading if it been illegal or not

Its obvious anybody with a 10mb+ connection is a pirate :D
 
Its a nice idea but in principle wont work. There are big problems to policing it namely

1) Proving any content you have donwloaded is illegal, monitoring millions of simultaneous connections and checking sources of content will become immense

2) With wifi taking over homes and businesses people will either download from "open" wireless connections or hack into poorly managed ones. Try pinning the downloading onto a certain person when a wifi connection is involved my Internet Police!!

3) People will downgrade their internet package to a slower one as already mentioned meaning the investment ISPs have made in making the networks faster will be a massive waste of money.

4) Millions of people will be banned from ISPs again losing the ISPs vast amounts of revenue

5) ISPs already operate fair useage policys yet there are people downloading in some cases GB's of data daily!! Yet they do nothing about it. Whats going to make ISPs police this new banning policy any better?

6) WHo exactly gets banned? In a lot of cases the person using the Internet connection may not be the bill payer (i.e parents paying the bill) Will it be the home address that is banned? Bill payer? Just the laptop/pc involved? More importantly what happens when you move home ;)

7) Downloaders will just start using encryption and then the ISPs will have no chance of monitoring it all :)
 
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normally people/companies wait until you have been proven guilty in a court of law before discriminating against you. unless you are proven to be an illegal file sharer i don't think that the ISP's should be able to discriminate so easily.
 
Be* aren't bothered about the news anyway lol

Hi,

Interesting story not sure how this will be policed or how the DPA will be changed to release personnal info of our members to other ISP's without a court order!

If I do hear any more of this I will keep you posted but at this point I would not worry to much.....
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If echelon can track millions of communication's in and out phone/internet/you name it at once then surely some supercomputer could possibly track millions of packets per second but putting them in 2 catagorys legal | ilegal may be a bit harder :p right ?
 
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