Israel-Hamas war - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

[VincentHanna]

Biden just gave Iran 6b dollars

This is total nonsense

The US agreed to allow Iran access to $6 billion of their frozen assets as part of a prisoner exchange deal.

Iran are only allowed to access that money directly for humanitarian purposes, and it's all overseen by a third party.

 

[NZXT30]

But that IS what's happening... Israelis are moving into and taking over Palestinian areas thereby displacing the Palestinians...

Are you saying that this is NOT happening?

It's quite obvious that Israel is not "happy with the status quo" as they seek to push Palestinians out as above

Doesn't matter really they have tolerated them long enough and the world will be a better place once the sun sets on that god forsaken terrorist state.

 

[Richie]

I wonder if this is actually part of a wider plan by Iran to bait Israel into committing attrocities in Gaza, to rally other Muslim countries into a wider war.

Or did Israel leave the base undermanned to allow Hamas to mount an attack as a.way for them to retaliate and annex the Gaza Strip without outrage from the International Community?

Yet Israel could slap most of them back down. It’s a bizarre move. All Hamas has done is given Israel an easy excuse to take over the strip with not a word that’ll be uttered by western nations other than support.

See above...

 

[ltron]

So it would appear Hamas is on cahoots with Russia (and China):

Hamas sent high-level delegation to Moscow at Russia’s invitation

A high-level Hamas delegation visited Moscow recently at the invitation of the Russian government, the Palestinian resistance group said on Tuesday. It made the announcement while highlighting its standing among...

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Likes fly's to a dog turd.

Their tendrils appear to be in lots of 'special operations' and it's designed to destabilise and weaken the international rules based order.

 

[bingham67]

31 IDF Battalions of Infantry and Armor are currently Engaged in Heavy Fighting around the Gaza Strip and Southern Israel with another 4 said to be Enroute.

 

[Skunkworks]

I'd genuinely like to know what Hamas are trying to achieve with that statement. Are they hinting at opening negotiation channels with Israel to return the prisoners if there's some kind of ceasefire?

Israel will just use that as an excuse that if they don't get their people back they'll just proceed to flatten the Gaza strip.

Human shields would be my guess.

 

[Noughtboy]

But that IS what's happening... Israelis are moving into and taking over Palestinian areas thereby displacing the Palestinians...

Are you saying that this is NOT happening?

It's quite obvious that Israel is not "happy with the status quo" as they seek to push Palestinians out as above

What happened was Israel forcibly removed Jewish Israelis out of Gaza and handed it over to the PA to run as part of a step to achieving peace. They left them with working farms, factories and greenhouses as a source of income and employment. How did that work out? Go read it up.

As stated many times before by countless commentators... If the Arabs lay down their weapons there will be peace. If the Israelis lay down their weapons they will be murdered down to the last man, woman and child.

That is the reality. Anything else anyone claims about resettlement, illegal occupation, wholesale murder and genocide of innocent civilians, the human rights of overwhelming force and uneven death tolls of Israelis Vs Arabs, Apartheid state blah blah is obfuscation and deliberate misdirection.

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Human shields would be my guess.

Doubt that one will work.

 

[bingham67]

The Jerusalem Post: By Saturday evening, at least 100 Israelis had been killed and more than 900 injured. The number of those captured has not yet been confirmed. The Israel Defense Forces said it was in control of the situation."Together with the Israel Police, we are conducting a lockdown in all areas. There are airstrikes on tunnels, launchers, fighter jets are striking the border. Hundreds of such strikes have been carried out, resulting in many casualties, including among terrorists. The main effort is aimed at destroying all terrorists on the border and anyone who tries to return to the Gaza Strip. We are first firing from the air and then using heavy ground equipment," the IDF said in a statement. The fighting is taking place in 22 locations. "Some settlements have been cleared, but additional verification is needed before declaring them safe," the army said.

 

[Hawk Tuah]

Yet Israel could slap most of them back down. It’s a bizarre move. All Hamas has done is given Israel an easy excuse to take over the strip with not a word that’ll be uttered by western nations other than support.

Hasn't Russia just handed a load of nukes over to Iran?

This has Russia and Iran's hands all over it.

Or did Israel leave the base undermanned to allow Hamas to mount an attack as a.way for them to retaliate and annex the Gaza Strip without outrage from the International Community?

Absolutely absurd. Crawl back under your bridge.

 

[Richie]

Absolutely absurd. Crawl back under your bridge.

Woosh

So you can fling silly CT around but no one else can?.. gotcha

 

[GGizmo]

If other groups join in the attack things could quickly escalate.

I find it a little odd that Israel was caught completely by surprise, especially when the 6th of October was the start date of the Yom Kippur War. I would have thought historical dates would always be a pinch point in a conflict like this.

 

[adidan]

What happened was Israel forcibly removed Jewish Israelis out of Gaza and handed it over to the PA to run as part of a step to achieving peace. They left them with working farms, factories and greenhouses as a source of income and employment. How did that work out? Go read it up.

As stated many times before by countless commentators... If the Arabs lay down their weapons there will be peace. If the Israelis lay down their weapons they will be murdered down to the last man, woman and child.

That is the reality. Anything else anyone claims about resettlement, illegal occupation, wholesale murder and genocide of innocent civilians, the human rights of overwhelming force and uneven death tolls of Israelis Vs Arabs, Apartheid state blah blah is obfuscation and deliberate misdirection.

The UN say Israel are breaking international law with illegal occupation. I find it difficult to view the situation as simplistically as you wish to.

 

[ANDREW GREEN]

Israeli military strikes are generally surgical and are often called off when civilians are noted (i e. Put there as human shields by Hamad et al). It is a very well known fact and unknown of anywhere else in the world.

Do mistakes happen? Is there collateral damage? Yes but it is the exception rather than the rule. To say otherwise is blatantly ignorant.

Lies and propoganda a plenty there. They level civilian neighbourhoods, blow up hospitals, blow up schools and sing songs like 'No Palestinian Children will be going to school in the morning'.

 

[explicit4u]

They left them with working farms, factories and greenhouses as a source of income and employment. How did that work out? Go read it up

So Israel demolishing farmland, bulldozing buildings, and leaving Gaza entirely dependant on them for basic utilities has nothing to do with it?

Israeli military strikes are generally surgical and are often called off when civilians are noted (i e. Put there as human shields by Hamad et al). It is a very well known fact and unknown of anywhere else in the world.

Do mistakes happen? Is there collateral damage? Yes but it is the exception rather than the rule. To say otherwise is blatantly ignorant.

They've literally bombed two hospitals today. The military arms of both Israel and Palestine deserve each other.

 

[Freefaller]

Lies and propoganda a plenty there. They level civilian neighbourhoods, blow up hospitals, blow up schools and sing songs like 'No Palestinian Children will be going to school in the morning'.

Remember they shot a 13 year old girl taking a shortcut home because it was her birthday and her normal walk home was nearly 45mins.

She had a satchel, ergo it could have been a bomb. Very brave to shoot a kid. He emptied 17 bullets into her. She was nowhere near any tactical areas.

 

[Sythe79]

There are no good guys in this messy game of lines on maps, and if you think either side is the good guys you're a bad guy too.

 

[Rroff]

So it would appear Hamas is on cahoots with Russia (and China):

Hamas sent high-level delegation to Moscow at Russia’s invitation

A high-level Hamas delegation visited Moscow recently at the invitation of the Russian government, the Palestinian resistance group said on Tuesday. It made the announcement while highlighting its standing among...

www.google.com

Likes fly's to a dog turd.

Doesn't really gain Russia much, Israel has been relatively hands off when it comes to Ukraine, if it comes out Russia are involved it only gives Israel a reason to get more involved in support for Ukraine.

Not that Russia is necessarily given to think ahead like that.

 

[Noughtboy]

Lies and propoganda a plenty there. They level civilian neighbourhoods, blow up hospitals, blow up schools and sing songs like 'No Palestinian Children will be going to school in the morning'.

Well, if Hamas stops using those and mosques etc as stores for weapons and military headquarters like most civilised people, they wouldn't be targeted, would they.

And your claim they "level civilian neighborhoods" is quite frankly ludicrous. And that song is in a similar vein.

Go check out all the Arab indoctrination of children in schools assumed at bringing up another generation of jihadis.

This conflict is not about peace or land. They could have had both decades ago. This is about power and maintaining flows off money to line the pockets of the terrorists.

Instead of having at go at Israel, you should be having your apoplectic fit at the Hamas terrorist method of "negotiation" with indiscriminate firing of thousands of rockets and going door to door murdering civilians in their homes.

If ISIS/Stop Oil/PETRA did that in the UK you would be supportive of their demands? You would call for moderation in the UK response?

The fact you aren't shows you as one of those I referred to earlier. I have nothing but disdain for you.

 

[C Kent]

So Palestine is in bed with Russia and yet a bunch of folks in here are fully behind them.. if ever the peep show nazi meme was applicable its this.