Israel-Hamas war - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Freefaller said:
How can anyone dream about massacring people I don't know. But the Israelis are know for their thirst for blood. But it must be nice to have the USA in your back pocket and a massive chip on your shoulder.

Not forgiving Hamas at all but the Israelis are far from innocent for antagonisms.
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Should have asked Hamas the day before the attack, they knew exactly what the response would be. Now they will reap what they sow (well, innocent civilians will anyway)
I should probably step back from the news, it's ******* depressing.
 
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Humans are dumb. Paraphrasing a news interview:

Interviewer: Killing civilians doesn't sound like 'being careful' in combat, does it?
Interviewee: Nobody cares when they kill our civilians.
Interviewer: Well now more of your civilians are going to be killed in retaliation.
Interviewee: Then we'll kill their civilians.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.............
 
Uther said:
Should have asked Hamas the day before the attack, they knew exactly what the response would be. Now they will reap what they sow (well, innocent civilians will anyway)
I should probably step back from the news, it's ******* depressing.
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Oh of course. It's awful. And I have no idea what they were thinking. It's clear they're just making a point. Typical cutting off nose to spite their face.

I guess when you're desperate you don't think clearly.

Either way innocents on both sides are being dragged into things that they shouldn't have to endure.
 
Sankari said:
Bloody hell.

Imagine that's your family.
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And thats why a lot of people are going to die for the fear of this happening.

Would what "you" do.

You either curl up in a ball and hope it goes away or you pick up arms and off you march...

Its completely fubur.

you got 2 sides (leadership) that would love to see nothing more than the annihilation of each others way of life.

Then you got 90% normal populous just trying to live and get on with life getting **** like this.

war crimes incoming....
 
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Jono8 said:
However, I never understand what the small attacks that Palestine carry out hope to achieve? All it does is guarantee the death of more of their people.
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I think it's a mistake to expect terrorists to have coherent, rational, reality-based motivations.

This is their stated motivation as stated on Xitter:

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Make of that what you will. There's also this from a Hamas spokeperson, Ghazi Hamad:

Hamad: ... and I hope that that that some countries especially uh Arab countries who normalize with Israel should understand that it is a brutal country is a brutal state which is built on the skulls of the Palestinians on the blood of the Palestinian, they stop normalization with Israel, I think it is shame for anyone who come and make normalization of Israel-

Reporter: So are you saying, sir, this operation is a message to Arab countries who have been normalizing relations with Israel?

Hamad: Yes, yes, I think it is a shame for them it is a shame and it is a big shame and I ask all Arabic countries all Arabic countries to disconnect and to cut relationship with Israel because I think it is not, it is not a human, it is not, it is, sorry, it is not a state which believe in peace or existence or believe in good, to be a good neighbor...​

Which seems to me an explicit endorsement of the idea they're trying to provoke Israel into atrocities.
 
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Freefaller said:
How can anyone dream about massacring people I don't know. But the Israelis are know for their thirst for blood. But it must be nice to have the USA in your back pocket and a massive chip on your shoulder.

Not forgiving Hamas at all but the Israelis are far from innocent for antagonisms.
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The Israelis are known for their thirst for blood? Really? Is that because they need baby blood specifically for making their Matzos? Or is it bathing in the blood of virgins to perform their satanic rituals for world domination?

Maybe I am mixing up the usual tropes you are alluding to. Boring.

At least if you are going to come up with a baseless opinion based on a lie, get original. Just like @ANDREW GREEN did trotting out the complete fabrication that 33000 children have been murdered by Israel these last 15 years.

How about BDS boycott Israeli meat products because they contain organs harvested from those they farm in underground bunkers and murder just for that purpose.

How about I try a opinion based on lies. Hamas are known for being blood thirsty disgusting vile pigs because they fire indiscriminately whilst specifically targeting civilians and commit wholesale acts of terror and murder. Oh wait...
 
I mean remember that the Gaza strip has been named the world's largest prison. What happens when you limit people's freedoms for 16+ years people get weary and start to fight back. Again not excusing it but Israel are NOT innocent either in any way shape or form. The anti Israeli government lobbyists who are Israeli aren't allowed to show anything but support or told to shut up. There are problems on both sides.

The lack of freedom for the Palestinian, embargos, and restriction of movements and living under an oppressive regime of not only Israel but Hamas is clearly soul destroying.

I wish there were more balanced views and not just pro Israeli support all the time. Again Hamas and Hezbollah are not good people nor are they freedom fighters some people call them. However, when oppressed and backed into a corner you look for hope wherever you can.

It's absolutely tragic and so many young lives and families will be wiped out of existence because of fat rich men in power. It's quite stomach churning to think about that these people use other human beings as pawns.
 
Noughtboy said:
The Israelis are known for their thirst for blood? Really? Is that because they need baby blood specifically for making their Matzos? Or is it bathing in the blood of virgins to perform their satanic rituals for world domination?

Maybe I am mixing up the usual tropes you are alluding to. Boring.

At least if you are going to come up with a baseless opinion based on a lie, get original. Just like @ANDREW GREEN did trotting out the complete fabrication that 33000 children have been murdered by Israel these last 15 years.

How about BDS boycott Israeli meat products because they contain organs harvested from those they farm in underground bunkers and murder just for that purpose.

How about I try a opinion based on lies. Hamas are known for being blood thirsty disgusting vile pigs because they fire indiscriminately whilst specifically targeting civilians and commit wholesale acts of terror and murder. Oh wait...
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Well having lived in Lebanon and visited Palestine several time I've seen things with my own eyes. I also have many Israeli friends who having had to do their conscription to the IDF share some pretty harrowing stories.

Perhaps you're right I'm a bit biased because of my in person experiences, but I think they still count a little even if it goes against the press rhetoric? No? Either way I'm entitled to my opinions based in my experiences. We all have biases, as you clearly do too - that's absolutely fine. However, you cannot just dismiss someone's lived experiences just because you don't agree with it.

Anyway we're clearly not aligned but I wish you well, I'm not here to convince you to change your mind, just to temper your binary opinion a little.
 
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