"It just works"?

Adrianr said:
Call me cynical, but I somehow doubt that's the way Apple want the general consumer base to see it ;) To me (And i'm sure everyone else without anything more than a rudimentary grasp of computers) 'It just works' means exactly that. It Just Works. If any part of the machine that falls under this banner (Ie, All of it, as they control the hardware and software etc etc) fails to work, it no longer just works.

You could always argue that they don't put a time limit on it I guess :D

"It Just Works!*

*For the first 5 minutes after you pull it out of the box, after that, you're on your own"
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Well, there has plenty of advertising on this premise and none have pointed out that pc hardware is unreliable.

5 minutes? Let's not blow this out of proportion. The vast majority of mac users have no problems and if there are issues then I'm sure they will be resolved. Those who do have warranty for at least 1 year (pretty much standard for laptop manufacturers) and up to 4, so are hardly on their own.
 
likwid said:
5 minutes? Let's not blow this out of proportion. The vast majority of mac users have no problems and if there are issues then I'm sure they will be resolved. Those who do have warranty for at least 1 year (pretty much standard for laptop manufacturers) and up to 4, so are hardly on their own.
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You can't be serious..

(It was a joke..)
 
Oh, sorry. Given the tone of the conversation and all...

As for Steve Jobs signatures. I'm proud to say that somehow I always thought that was Larry David.
 
Think the 'just works' slogan is mainly related to software.

Hardware is hardware, doesn't matter what OS it runs or who makes it. If it breaks it breaks.
 
Hatter The Mad said:
I was poking at Apple and Apple fans for their "It just just works" tag line.
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I don't think that is (or has been) an official Apple strap line. Anyway even if it was it refers to the software and hardware working together out of the box. See:

Because Apple makes both the software and the hardware, everything works together.
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So I can without any need to purchase or install software I can use my webcam, manage my photos, music and so on.

It does what a PC does, only better.
A Mac has all the essentials built right in, including the latest wireless technology, advanced Intel chips, and a rock solid operating system that’s loaded with innovations.

Born ready.
Unlike other computers that require you to spend hours configuring devices, a Mac connects to your digital camera, wireless device, or external drive and just works. Really.
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Nowhere does it say that Apple hardware always works. Oh no Apple sometimes has problems as does Dell, HP et al

I half-expected a response like this from someone with Steve Jobs in their signature.
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What does his signature have to do with anything? Does that mean that anybody with anything Apple related in their signature is a blind fanboi?
 
LordSplodge said:
What does his signature have to do with anything? Does that mean that anybody with anything Apple related in their signature is a blind fanboi?
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Obviously, LordSplodge. :p

A lot of people using the Mac forums for a lot of fishing these days. Sad to see.

[Sixteen million times eMac owner here]
 
I have had 2 apple products so far, a 2g iphone which is 15 months old and never missed a beat and a Unibody macbook which has had none of the problems mentioned above.

So far i'm impressed :)
 
Slogan said:
Obviously, LordSplodge. :p

A lot of people using the Mac forums for a lot of fishing these days. Sad to see.

[Sixteen million times eMac owner here]
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It's only got itself to blame.. It's too easy to get a rise out of the regulars :p

[One time iMac, iPhone 3G and soon to be MacBook Unibody owner]
 
LordSplodge said:
Anyway even if it was it refers to the software and hardware working together out of the box. See:
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Yes, but my point is that recently, Apple products consistently have not worked out of the box. I'm not talking about random web cam or printer - I am talking about the chipsets, touchpads, casings that they ship with. The stuff Apple put together.

Why am I being gunned down for making an observation?
 
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likwid said:
You seem to have a habit of making sweeping unsubstantiated statements. Please, link some statistics that demonstrate they have more problems than other laptop manufacturers.
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I did: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13645287&postcount=5

The underlined phrases are links, by the way.

Hatter The Mad said:
Google for "unibody wifi sleep", "unibody freeze on wake". Recall the click problems with the multi-touch pad, even more click problems with trackpads, and the still persisting "3.5 finger" click required in Bootcamp, Macbooks crashing when used with the Mac keyboard? Fan whine problems? The HDMI fiasco that wouldn't allow you to play video via the DisplayPort as it thought everything you tried to play was "unlicensed"? Problems sensing the power adapter (and not going into charge mode)? Oh, must not forget the cracking iPhone housings. Or how about the so-slow-it-is-unusable-without-a-restart typing bug in pre-2.0 iPhone firmware? Oh, and remember when Apple published an update which BROKE mail fetching completely? This went unpatched for a good few months. Mail for goodness sake!

I'm sure everyone remember the MobileMe problems, including push not being fully implemented until about 3 months ago.
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But they are all incidences of occurrence that you're attempting to pass off as evidence of consistently being the case. Go and browse Dell's forums, for example, and you'll see a whole lot worse. Support forums are where people go when things go wrong, not when things are right.
 
likwid said:
But they are all incidences of occurrence that you're attempting to pass off as evidence of consistently being the case.
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Most of these "problems" have affected a majority of users. Everyone uses the same Apple software. If Apple publish a "firmware fix" for a problem, you can bet that the problem exists in everyone's Macbook/iPhone whatever. Unfortunately, unless you were browsing the Apple forums at the time of the said problems, you'll no longer be able to see the threads as they have been removed (when they get too big and angry).

Go and browse Dell's forums, for example, and you'll see a whole lot worse. Support forums are where people go when things go wrong, not when things are right.
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Why should I browse Dell's forums? This is about Apple, and "It just works."
 
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How do you know this? That these problems are affecting the majority? Simply, you don't.

I don't expect you to browse Dell forums. My point is that all laptop manufacturers have quality issues.

Again with the 'it just works quote' which has been discussed. You're basically trolling in a very childish way.
 
The "its just works" BS is cute, when it actually does "just work" all well and good but when it doesn't that little gimmicky slogan looks retarded.

Anyway why have applecare and support forums if "it just works"?
 
Because it refers to a system which is configured out the box with applications, drivers etc. , as was discussed earlier in the thread.

Nobody's saying there aren't problems but some kid is trolling the subject trying to make it sound worse than it is.
 
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