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It looks like the 'real' /affordable RDNA3 + next gen NV desktop launch won't launch until September. Thoughts?
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Indeed.
But I think it would probably make more sense to wait until they can use an optimised TSMC 3nm process to scale up the compute units beyond 100.
I wonder if the vcache versions of RDNA3 exist /are in development? I can see that providing a worthwhile improvement.
Not true is it? The Arc A770 16GB costs ~£400 at the moment. The performance is similar to the RX 6600 XT.
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yup.
On a separate note - It ought to be clear to people by now, that the Navi33 and AD106 GPUs aren't remotely exciting, and this should not be a surprise, they are low end and cheap to mass produce.
The only interesting feature they both support is frame generation (with FSR3 still to come).
On paper, the main performance difference appears to be the approx. 2x FP32 processing power of the Navi33 GPU, compared to Navi23.
The RTX 4060 TI 8 or 16GB card is based on the AD106 GPU, notably not AD104, which would have been the same approach that they took with the RTX 3060 TI (based on GA104).
Therefore, it cannot really be considered to be a successor to the RTX 3060 TI, despite it's name.
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Most people will just be buying the RX 6700 XT instead, even if you get a could get a good price on the Arc 16GB version.
Also, cards like the RX 6750 XT are around 20% faster than the Arc according to techpowerup, and can be bought for ~£340 at the moment.
One thing to note about the top Arc GPUs - The transistor density on 6nm isn't very good at 53.4M / mm². But there's the possibility of doubling this (or more) with a better fab process. The RX 7900 XTX has a transistor density of 109.1M / mm² on TSMC 5nm, so I'm sure Intel could surpass this on a denser fab process, like 3nm.
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The RTX 4060 TI isn't great is it? The RTX 3060 TI gets higher 1% lows in some games:
www.techpowerup.com
Generally a little slower than a RTX 3070.
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Founders Edition Review
NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 4060 Ti launches today. The green team's new $400 card offers plenty of performance for even the most demanding titles at Full HD and beyond. Our review confirms that thanks to the amazing energy efficiency of the AD106 GPU, the Founders Edition runs cool and quiet at all times.
Generally a little slower than a RTX 3070.
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I'm thinking that AMD will want to launch FSR3 alongside Navi32 cards, which are likely to sell well (as navi 22 did):
wccftech.com
The potential of it being implemented at the driver level is interesting.
AMD FSR 3 Might Generate Up To 4 Interpolated Frames & Be Enabled On Driver-Side
AMD FSR 3 will be featuring frame generation technology, allowing it to generate up to 4 interpolated frames for each real frame.
wccftech.com
The potential of it being implemented at the driver level is interesting.
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I think basically, they've made it look a bit better by calling it a RX 7600 rather than a 7600 XT.
It has the same number of Compute Units are the 6600 XT though (32). This is the card it should be compared to.
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Better cost per frame at 1440p for pretty much the whole RX 6000 series shown here:
youtu.be
The RTX 4060 TI is slightly behind all of them on value (at the MSRP of $400).
It's clear that cards like the RX 6800 need a price cut though.
Laughably Bad at $400: Nvidia GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Review
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The RTX 4060 TI is slightly behind all of them on value (at the MSRP of $400).
It's clear that cards like the RX 6800 need a price cut though.
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The RTX 4060 TI 8GB (~£370) is nearly as fast as the RTX 3070, but it's around £100 cheaper than the MSRP of the 3070, not so bad really.
Wouldn't pay more than that though. I think the trouble is that neither card is ideal for 1440p games in 2023, but both perform very well as 1080p cards.
Wouldn't pay more than that though. I think the trouble is that neither card is ideal for 1440p games in 2023, but both perform very well as 1080p cards.
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The RTX 4060 TI at ~£370 makes the RTX 4070 seem poor value (especially at 1080p) at ~£550.
But the RX 6700 XT at ~£315 is better value than the RTX 4060 TI, especially when comparing 1% lows at 1440p.
The RTX 4070 (still) needs a £50 price cut
But the RX 6700 XT at ~£315 is better value than the RTX 4060 TI, especially when comparing 1% lows at 1440p.
The RTX 4070 (still) needs a £50 price cut
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Yup.
I imagine they will try to sell off the RX 6650 XTs as soon as possible because they are probably the best value cards (at ~£216) at 1080p right now.
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Looking at the results in detail, it looks like the RX 7600 would provide a smoother experience at 1080p compared to the RX 6650 XT in some games, with a notable difference in Warhammer III:
Full article here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7600/35.html
Full article here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7600/35.html
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I think might as well buy a RX 6800 or RTX 4060 TI for 1080p, in some games it's clearly not overkill.
The RX 6800 is a better card than the RTX 4060 TI in overall performance, but the price is too high for the AMD card atm.
EDIT - The RTX 4060 ought to provide decent performance at 1080p, it's coming in July I think. I'd guess they will price it at ~£300.
The RX 6800 is a better card than the RTX 4060 TI in overall performance, but the price is too high for the AMD card atm.
EDIT - The RTX 4060 ought to provide decent performance at 1080p, it's coming in July I think. I'd guess they will price it at ~£300.
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