It looks like the 'real' /affordable RDNA3 + next gen NV desktop launch won't launch until September. Thoughts?

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More to a purchase than just sheer fps performance, you can't put a price on a good software/feature experience.

£5?

 

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Another huge pro for Nvidia in my books.
Great resale value.

Yes, but very high new price for the 3080 TI.

 

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It is.... its a good card in its own right for its money but having a proper amount of VRam pushes it over the edge of just being a good sub £400 card to being IMO the only option up to £500.

kind of - The RX 6800 with 16GB is <£500 new.

 

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Maybe ill wait for the RX7600 (+ maybe RX 7600 XT) to see how the prices change.

cards like the 6700 XT + 6800 will probably see a drop in price.

 

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The RX 6800 at £400 would be pretty great, not sure if that will happen though.

 

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The RX 6600XT had an MSRP of $379. I don't think AMD are going to drop that, which means the 6700XT is probably as cheap as its going to get.

Don't see why they wouldn't.

Hopefully £300.

 

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I think the 6750XT is probably one of the few decent performing cards that can actually be produced cheaply.

But a little overpriced currently, might as well get a 6800 if paying £450+.

 

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I'd quite like just to upgrade in 1 go, but the RX 7900 XT price is at least £100 too high.

 

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Cheapest RX 6700 XT (new) I've seen is priced at ~£330, so I'm sure these will drop another 10%.

 

[g67575]

I wonder if there could be $50-$100 price cut to the RX 7900 XT coming up?

Those of you that are in the market for a new GPU, would you buy one for £700?

 

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I think AMD must be selling a lot of them in the US, particularly in states with little / 0% sales tax.

 

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AMD is playing the waiting game still, reacting to Nvidia, rather than releasing products proactively.

I think the first Navi32 cards we hear about will be higher end (e.g. the 60 CU part).

I'm unsure if a 16GB 7600 XT would be worth it, considering that Navi33 GPUs are targeted at 1080p.

 

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The thing I don't understand about RDNA3, is the apparent delay to Navi32 on mobile devices.

No problem with Navi33 on laptops, but they haven't launched any laptops with Navi32 GPUs yet, where they could no doubt be making lots of profit.

Production issues? Lack of investment in fabrication capacity perhaps?

 

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It could be some other issue, like they have too many high end laptops with RDNA2 GPUs, left to sell.

The obvious thing would be price cuts, but I doubt investors would like the sound of that.

 

[g67575]

No Navi31 laptops yet either, so I don't think it's any kind of product issue.

 

[g67575]

I think the techtubers don't pay enough attention to mobile launches (or lack of), which is probably one of the best clues about when desktop GPUs based on the same GPU dies will be launched also.

 

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Navi31 is way too big to be in laptops. The same as the AD102.

AD103 GPUs must dominate on laptops then, I bet these GPUs must earn Nvidia mega bucks.

Navi32 is apparently 346 mm², so presumably would be suitable for laptops?

AMD Navi 32 GPU Specs

3840 Cores, 192 TMUs, 128 ROPs

www.techpowerup.com

 

[g67575]

It sounds like the race towards 2/3nm GPUs is going to be very important for AMD and Nvidia, due to the die size limitations on 4/5nm, in laptops.

 

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Seems like AMD is still showing off the RX 6800:

I don't disagree with what the chart shows, the RX 6800 is a better graphics card. But not cheap enough in my opinion.

I think they may be planning to replace this model soon with it's successor, e.g RX 7800, probably with 60 Compute Units.

 

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I think they're still holding back Navi32, until retailers have sold off the remaining RX 6800 stock.

My impression is that they have some left, but not a lot. It probably depends mostly on the US market.

It's difficult to imagine AMD selling the remaining stock without a further price cut, given the release of the RTX 4070.