Italian Grand Prix 2012, Monza - Race 13/20

Skeeter · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:14

muon said:
Button favourite to be first place at the end of lap 3. Tow + DRS means Hamilton has no chance.

Depends if someone can 'do a Vettel'

However, my biggest concern is the big red Alonso guided missile that is starting just behind the 2 McLarens...

SPARC · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:14

muon said:
Button favourite to be first place at the end of lap 3. Tow + DRS means Hamilton has no chance.

Unless he can keep ahead by 1 second.

Irish_Tom · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:15

Kenai said:
Well unless he's pulled more than a second on Button by lap 3, which is entirely feasible.

I certainly wouldn't want to be laying money against him pulling that gap.

Exactly. My biggest worry is LH having a slow get away. He's bogged himself down off the start a few times this year.

Mr Men · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:15

Alonso looking likely to start from the pitlane.

Kenai · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:15

muon said:
Well unless Button makes a mistake getting that second lead will be difficult.

I dunno, I don't think it's likely to be that difficult, like I say, I wouldn't want to lay money against it happening

Duke · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:15

Mclaren did the solid job they needed, but what a great lap by Massa and Di Resta!

Mr Men · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:15

Skeeter said:
Depends if someone can 'do a Vettel'

However, my biggest concern is the big red Alonso guided missile that is starting just behind the 2 McLarens...

You can say a lot about Felipe, but suggesting he is a dirty driver is pathetic.

Duke · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:17

Qually times

Code:

[b]Pos  Driver              Car                   Time       Gap[/b]
 1.  Lewis Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes      1m24.010s
 2.  Jenson Button       McLaren-Mercedes      1m24.133s  + 0.123s
 3.  Felipe Massa        Ferrari               1m24.247s  + 0.237s
 4.  Paul di Resta       Force India-Mercedes  1m24.304s  + 0.294s***
 5.  Michael Schumacher  Mercedes              1m24.540s  + 0.530s
 6.  Sebastian Vettel    Red Bull-Renault      1m24.802s  + 0.792s
 7.  Nico Rosberg        Mercedes              1m24.833s  + 0.823s
 8.  Kimi Raikkonen      Lotus-Renault         1m24.855s  + 0.845s
 9.  Kamui Kobayashi     Sauber-Ferrari        1m25.109s  + 1.099s
10.  Fernando Alonso     Ferrari               1m25.678s  + 1.668s
Q2 cut-off time: 1m24.742s                                Gap *
11.  Mark Webber         Red Bull-Renault      1m24.809s  + 0.567s
12.  Pastor Maldonado    Williams-Renault      1m24.820s  + 0.578s****
13.  Sergio Perez        Sauber-Ferrari        1m24.901s  + 0.659s
14.  Bruno Senna         Williams-Renault      1m25.042s  + 0.800s
15.  Daniel Ricciardo    Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m25.312s  + 1.070s
16.  Jerome d'Ambrosio   Lotus-Renault         1m25.408s  + 1.166s
17.  Jean-Eric Vergne    Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m25.441s  + 1.199s
Q1 cut-off time: 1m25.834s                                Gap **
18.  Heikki Kovalainen   Caterham-Renault      1m26.382s  + 2.207s
19.  Vitaly Petrov       Caterham-Renault      1m26.887s  + 2.712s
20.  Timo Glock          Marussia-Cosworth     1m27.039s  + 2.864s
21.  Charles Pic         Marussia-Cosworth     1m27.073s  + 2.898s
22.  Narain Karthikeyan  HRT-Cosworth          1m27.441s  + 3.266s
23.  Pedro de la Rosa    HRT-Cosworth          1m27.629s  + 3.454s
24.  Nico Hulkenberg     Force India-Mercedes

107 per cent time: 1m30.076s

* Gap to fastest in Q2
** Gap to fastest in Q3
*** Will take five-place penalty
**** Will take 10-place penalty

Mr Men · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:17

Italian TV says pitlane start for Alonso.

deuse · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:18

Kenai said:
That doesn't mean there wasn't a problem, he may have had problems in the chicane because there was a brake/suspension/tyre/drs/etc/etc problem.

You could look at it from my view or look at from yours..BUT your view may say HAS a problem so may get a dnf.
If you see what I mean..

Kenai · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:19

Duke said:

Qually times

Code:

[b]Pos  Driver              Car                   Time       Gap[/b]
 1.  Lewis Hamilton      McLaren-Mercedes      1m24.010s
 2.  Jenson Button       McLaren-Mercedes      1m24.133s  + 0.123s
 3.  Felipe Massa        Ferrari               1m24.247s  + 0.237s
 4.  Paul di Resta       Force India-Mercedes  1m24.304s  + 0.294s***
 5.  Michael Schumacher  Mercedes              1m24.540s  + 0.530s
 6.  Sebastian Vettel    Red Bull-Renault      1m24.802s  + 0.792s
 7.  Nico Rosberg        Mercedes              1m24.833s  + 0.823s
 8.  Kimi Raikkonen      Lotus-Renault         1m24.855s  + 0.845s
 9.  Kamui Kobayashi     Sauber-Ferrari        1m25.109s  + 1.099s
10.  Fernando Alonso     Ferrari               1m25.678s  + 1.668s
Q2 cut-off time: 1m24.742s                                Gap *

Interesting to see that the 5 cars in 6-10 didn't manage to even post a cut off beating time in Q3.

Kenai · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:19

deuse said:
You could look at it from my view or look at from yours..BUT your view may say HAS a problem so may get a dnf.
If you see what I mean..

wut

Skeeter · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:20

How many different colours of those shades does he have?

deuse · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:22

Kenai said:
wut

WHAT

what's wut?

Skeeter · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:23

deuse said:
WHAT what's wut?

Wuts what.

smr · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:23

Great for the championship how things are atm

smr · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:23

Dir smiling !

utajoker · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:24

deuse said:
WHAT what's wut?

what? wut is what.

Kenai · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:25

deuse said:
WHAT what's wut?

wut = what

Now what the hell was your post trying to say?

I might just be a bit hungover still but I still can't fathom what on earth you were trying to say

Irish_Tom · 8 Sep 2012 at 14:27

smr said:
Great for the championship how things are atm

As much as I want to see a fight at the front, Alonso starting from the pit lane, Kimi and the Red Bulls further back, and the two Mclaren's starting from the front will really shake up the WDC standings if it finishes close to how it starts tomorrow.

However, I'm looking forward to Alonso fighting through the pack.