LOL what, how can you say S3 meant nothing when it can be the difference from 10th to 7th or something? Ok so he was not mighty in sector 3 it was others that sucked in S3 LOL. I guess we can say Lewis pole lap was not all that good, just others sucked?
Italian Grand Prix 2012, Monza - Race 13/20
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LOL what, how can you say S3 meant nothing when it can be the difference from 10th to 7th or something? Ok so he was not mighty in sector 3 it was others that sucked in S3 LOL. I guess we can say Lewis pole lap was not all that good, just others sucked?
Now people might believe me, there is no way Alonso will win this title. His car just isn't fast enough and once he's had a spell of bad luck and the others are back on his tail he won't have a car fast enough to do damage.
A Button Hamilton crash on the first lap will be excellent just to see this forum argue about it until November.
The car was fast enough today to challenge for pole? Ferrari has big update for Singapore they are not stopping.
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Based on Alonso saying he has the fastest car
Was pretty close no? Massa being 3rd says a lot.
Yes I'm talking about their dry pace in general, this is hardly the most technical track in the dry. Here he's just going to lose have some of his lead eaten into by one car or another. It's at the mid to higher downforce circuits they are going to be clinging on against the mclarens and red bulls.
Pure damage limitation at this circuit now and it doesn't have the dry pace to extend the lead under normal circumstances.
Everyone is building and working on updates.
I assume he will start from the pits if they have to replace rear suspension components?
Oh I agree Ferrari has a lot of work to do but today they should have been taking full advantage, but still if the car is good tomorrow then Alonso should still be scoring big points and podium possible.
Fry has said Singapore should be more of a clearer picture for them when they bring what they have.
thank you for that - just applied - but would love some high res shots too (2560*1600 would be fab lol)
I think they can change parts like a broken rear anti-rollbar under parc ferme rules.
I wouldn't be surprised if they start him from the pits anyway. Keep him out of any potential issues in turn 1, stick him on the hard tyres which he will will easily pass half the field with, and then he will be on soft tyres at the end of the race when the others are on hards.
It would also allow them to fully go over the whole car to ensure its all tip top.
It would also allow them to fully go over the whole car to ensure its all tip top.
sorry - Ferrari couldnt change anything at all now without a penalty of some kind (as the fault was found during quali/after parc ferme rules have been applied)
Of course the new box was fitted without a penalty pre -qualifying but if thats faulty for what ever reason, he would get a penalty (vor another change)
Im guessing they cant fit a new ant-roll bar before the race (without starting from the pitlane or another penalty?).
A podium from 10th might be possible, if he's not starting from the pits? Especially if they can use Massa to slow the pack. Always makes me nervous when a driver is starting in the pack though
Would you trust Massa to slow the pack down currently (and not allow a few cars through) , however good he did in a single one of lap for quali, its completely different in the pressure of instantly made decisions in the race. I would be surprised if Massa could hold up anyone for long (esp if Merc have their double drs working).
Just a general point not against Alonso or anything - but its stupid to have "parc ferme" rules and yet allow teams to change certain componants without penalty (Im pretty sure this has happened before , but its still daft). Either have parc ferme or dont
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Not really the case..
We're not talking about an engine or gearbox failure, It's a rear anti-roll bar that is broken.
You can replace parts in parc ferme under FIA supervision.
In the quote I posted he was talking about another gearbox.
Very close indeed, but Im not sure anyone can say one way or the other with the McLaren's being 1-2 on the grid - or even 2 & 3 IF Alonso had got pole.
You can change the gearbox for free if you do not finish the previous race. Which is what I said Alonso has a new gearbox here and no penalty for changing it due to DNF in Spa, they can probably change the roll bar without penalty as well.
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A podium from 10th might be possible, if he's not starting from the pits? Especially if they can use Massa to slow the pack. Always makes me nervous when a driver is starting in the pack though
confusing reading the rules of what is and not allowed to be changed in parc ferme under FIA supervision, but since Red Bull can adjust ride height then I guess it should be ok to change it over
I hope he and Jules Bianchi have race seats in F1 in the coming season or two.