Italian Grand Prix 2013, Monza - Race 12/19

Am I right in thinking Vet will equal the all time champions of MS & Fangios 4 back to back WDC and no one has done 5 back to back.
Be interesting what cars are were next year with the massive change in rules. I'm thinking Ferrari and RBR will be the two to beat. Mercedes in third.
No confidence in mclaren at all.
 
MissChief said:
I can't decide if Massa letting Alinso past is because he has been signed for next year or because he wants to be signed for next year.

Lotus, Ferrari and McLaren should offer Newey ten million each to retire and do something else.
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He's already on $10m a year (if not more after bonuses etc.) so says the internet.

I expect they'd need to bribe him a bit more than 3 years wages to retire over 10 years before retirement age :p
 
He wouldn't be bribe, he has enough money to wipe his arse with.
He's in it for glory and championships. So why even change even if they offer him more. He's in a great team with a great driver.
 
Well that is that then, Ultra boring when Vettel just romps off at the start. I know it's annoying for all of us fans who don't support RBR, but imagine how it must feel when you are working for one of the other teams. They must go home at times thinking "why do I bother?"

Not sure what to do with my Sky sub next year, I know the new regs might mix things up.. but I'm not sure I'm willing to pay good money to find out.
 
Kenai said:
You've highlighted rimming as if he's made some sort of mistake? :confused:
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I know what it means but coming on a family forum spreading his\her gay ways has nothing to do with F1!
It wouldn't come in to my mind to say such filthy stuff here eeeeewwwwwwww

Back on topic.
 
I know why I never watch F1 anymore.

Used to watch it every race, but now it's so dull and a Ecclestone cash cow that there's no real competition/racing anymore.

The only real competition to see who's the best driver is when they all use the same machinery, but that'll never happen so F1 and most top level motorsport has become Pay2Win :P

Shame as I used to like F1 :/
 
This is different to the past? How exactly?

It's always been dominated by one team/driver. For several years, the a year or two of change, then another team dominating, rinse and repeate.
 
Race Result

Code: 
[b]Pos Driver                Team                    Time/Gap[/b]
 1. Sebastian Vettel      Red Bull-Renault        1h18m33.352s
 2. Fernando Alonso       Ferrari                 +5.467s
 3. Mark Webber           Red Bull-Renault        +6.350s
 4. Felipe Massa          Ferrari                 +9.361s
 5. Nico Hulkenberg       Sauber-Ferrari          +10.355s
 6. Nico Rosberg          Mercedes                +10.999s
 7. Daniel Ricciardo      Toro Rosso-Ferrari      +32.329s
 8. Romain Grosjean       Lotus-Renault           +33.130s
 9. Lewis Hamilton        Mercedes                +33.527s
10. Jenson Button         McLaren-Mercedes        +38.327s
11. Kimi Raikkonen        Lotus-Renault           +38.695s
12. Sergio Perez          McLaren-Mercedes        +39.765s
13. Esteban Gutierrez     Sauber-Ferrari          +40.880s
14. Pastor Maldonado      Williams-Renault        +49.085s
15. Valtteri Bottas       Williams-Renault        +56.827s
16. Adrian Sutil          Force India-Mercedes    +1 lap
17. Charles Pic           Caterham-Renault        +1 lap
18. Giedo van der Garde   Caterham-Renault        +1 lap
19. Jules Bianchi         Marussia-Cosworth       +1 lap
20. Max Chilton           Marussia-Cosworth       +1 lap

Standings

Code: 
[b]Drivers:                      Constructors:             [/b]
 1.  Vettel        222        1.  Red Bull-Renault          352
 2.  Alonso        169        2.  Ferrari                   248
 3.  Hamilton      141        3.  Mercedes                  245
 4.  Raikkonen     134        4.  Lotus-Renault             191
 5.  Webber        130        5.  McLaren-Mercedes           66
 6.  Rosberg       104        6.  Force India-Mercedes       61
 7.  Massa          79        7.  Toro Rosso-Ferrari         31
 8.  Grosjean       57        8.  Sauber-Ferrari             17
 9.  Button         48        9.  Williams-Renault            1
10.  Di Resta       36       
11.  Sutil          25       
12.  Perez          18       
13.  Ricciardo      18       
14.  Hulkenberg     17       
15.  Vergne         13       
16.  Maldonado       1
 
I'd just like to point out here that i'm not gay, although it seems fine to call Vettel a gay porn star etc. Ocuk - The house of double standards.
 
Sparky-F1 said:
Yay at the booing, just drives us on even more. :)
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Multi 21 Seb. He can complain all he likes and be charming 99.9% of the time.

The fans wouldn't boo if he'd won with honour. It's a dark Schumacher-esque blot on his character and it's not going away.
 
Skeeter said:
The solution to McLarens problems just drove past them both...
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He isnt a solution when he wanted to leave is he?

Besides a couple of months and its season over. Vettels already bagged his 4th championship and next years cars will be built around jenson and sergio.

So lewis isnt needed nor is he a solution.

Lewis lucked into one solitary championship in his epic tenure at mclaren which is woeful. Button has been the closest to seb in '11 since 2010 ;)
 
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