Italian Grand Prix 2013, Monza - Race 12/19
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Agree.
Also at Canada 2012 they had the same car\same brakes ect Lewis finished 1st button 16th.
The next race will be won by Lewis in style
Ted's race notebook - http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/8912541/ted
Jenson is the most complete driver in F1. But this in no way means he's the best, or the fastest.
If a team wants an ambassador for them, Buttons the man. He's brilliant with the press, brilliant with the team, and is pretty handy at the wheel of a car too. He isn't going to sulk in interviews like a spoilt child, call his boss stupid over the radio, or wander off to his boat after a race ignoring everyone. He's a team player and a nice guy and very much an all rounded driver.
He's not the fastest, or the most ruthless, or the most consistent. But the drivers who are carry failings in other areas.
I really hope JB goes into media when he retires from driving, he has the skills and personality for it.
If a team wants an ambassador for them, Buttons the man. He's brilliant with the press, brilliant with the team, and is pretty handy at the wheel of a car too. He isn't going to sulk in interviews like a spoilt child, call his boss stupid over the radio, or wander off to his boat after a race ignoring everyone. He's a team player and a nice guy and very much an all rounded driver.
He's not the fastest, or the most ruthless, or the most consistent. But the drivers who are carry failings in other areas.
I really hope JB goes into media when he retires from driving, he has the skills and personality for it.
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Yet another weekend where the more exciting races came from GP2 and GP3 *sigh*
Cant wait for the 2014 formula to shake up the order a bit
Cant wait for the 2014 formula to shake up the order a bit
I was one of the few Button fans on here prior to 09, yet Smr makes me wanna hate him
If we think it's bad just imagine what his poor son who he named after him will have to go through. Justifying the name with made up tales of races.
I'd be amazed if Brundle now thought Jenson was the more complete driver than Alonso. I can't see how.
Alonso is faster when the car is supreme, can drive around car problems and qualifies better than Jenson even when the cars struggling. What exactly would Jenson be better at than Alonso. Many manufacturers have said Alonso's ability to adapt to tyres is the best as well.
Hamilton would have got far more out of that Mclaren this year as he has the Mercedes. I took a punt that he would do better than Jenson and it's coming true. I imagine if Hamilton was still in the Mclaren this year he still would have won a race and been in the front 3 rows consistently. When JB is stuggling the gap would have been even bigger this year.
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Do you really think a driver in F1 for that long doesn't know how to set up a carReally?
It's been said of hakkinen and Kimi and both of them won titles. Hence why kimi especially was always on or off the boil at Ferrari. If he turned up and the car was fast from day 1 he was awesome, if it took some work he went missing.
Hakkinen was well known for having very limited tech knowledge and it was always touted as one of the reasons they kept and used DC for long.
I was one of the few Button fans on here prior to 09, yet Smr makes me wanna hate him
If we think it's bad just imagine what his poor son who he named after him will have to go through. Justifying the name with made up tales of races.
I'd be amazed if Brundle now thought Jenson was the more complete driver than Alonso. I can't see how.
Alonso is faster when the car is supreme, can drive around car problems and qualifies better than Jenson even when the cars struggling. What exactly would Jenson be better at than Alonso. Many manufacturers have said Alonso's ability to adapt to tyres is the best as well.
Hamilton would have got far more out of that Mclaren this year as he has the Mercedes. I took a punt that he would do better than Jenson and it's coming true. I imagine if Hamilton was still in the Mclaren this year he still would have won a race and been in the front 3 rows consistently. When JB is stuggling the gap would have been even bigger this year.
I dont think, even Lewis with all his talent could stick this years McLaren on the top step.
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Surely, even with the lack of 'development potential', McLaren would have been better off with the 2012 car?
Yeah plenty of people on here said that about his move to mercedes this year. I reckon he would have won a race before the season ended. He certainly would have had more opportunity starting 3 rows further up the grid than Jenson each race weekend
Doubtful, if you look at it simplistically the fastest laptimes would indicate things are faster this year still for McLaren, just not by as much as it is for others.
For example, this year's Italian GP, McLaren's fastest lap was 1.27.8 vs 1.28.4 last year. A 0.6s improvement.
However the overall fastest lap went from 1.27.2 last year to 1.25.8 this year, an improvement of 1.4 seconds.
McLaren's car is performing better than the 2012 car if you look at it simplistically like that, just not better enough compared to everyone else.
Driver of the day hands down to Hulkenberg. I'd love to see him in the Ferrari next year or the Lotus. I'm starting to get a little bored with Vettel's dominance this season. Last year was exciting because Alonso and Vettel's battle gripped you right to the end. This year it's clear that unless Vettel suffers a string of DNF's it's his to lose.
Roll on next year.
Roll on next year.
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Very good thought. I too would love him to get into commentating and so forth.