Italian Grand Prix 2014, Monza - Race 13/19

[Millwall.FC]

When Nico went off at Monaco then this forum in general decided it was done on purpose, yet when he does it at Monza (twice) then it's cause he is hopeless.....

Think it was him reversing back onto the track that made people think it was on purpose?

 

[RoboCod]

Mate at work is also convinced rosberg was told to give up his position like he did. As a punishment for spa

 

[PlacidCasual]

Apart from Alonso Hamilton is the best driver on the grid but I can't warm to him. I think I'd rather Rosberg won the title, if i had to chose between the genuine contenders.

I see his mopping face with his silly facial hair and then the whining starts and I just think man up.

 

[Deleted member 651465]

Mate at work is also convinced rosberg was told to give up his position like he did. As a punishment for spa

I can't see any driver leading the WDC willingly risking flat spotting their tyres (and ruining their own race) just because of an incident in the last race. Regardless of fault.

Lewis was faster all weekend. Rosberg heard the call on the radio that Hamilton had reported the rear tyres going off and adjusted the brake bias I.e be acted on the inter-team information, and it bit him.

I'm actually glad... It's annoying hearing merc radio one driver telling them what engine mode the other is running I can't see this single incident changing that, but you could say it's a downside to having too much info, if you can't make it work for you.

 

[dannyjo22]

To all the CT nutters. What do you think of Hamilton's launch button not working just after he left the pits?

Add to the drama , anyway weren't you one of the CT nutters when it was the other way around?

I don't believe in any other conspiracy theories in either direction. This whole rivalry has become pathetic, like a pair of kids. The media are finding these two increasingly easy to get soundbites out of to stoke the fire. I found the pair of them irritating this weekend pretending to care about the "team" and dropping it into the conversation every 3 seconds.

I hope next year their cars crap and we can watch them be best mates again

 

[Deleted member 651465]

As Mercedes clearly are capable of scoring one-two finishes in all the remaining races, it’s revealing to look at how this could determine the championship. Heading into this weekend’s race there were 128 permutations for how Hamilton and Rosberg could finish first and second, and in only seven of them (5.5%) would Hamilton win the title.

Now there are 64 different ways they could finish one-two in the six remaining rounds. Six of these would result in Hamilton winning the title (9.4%). Note that Hamilton could lead Rosberg home in the next five consecutive races, but still lose the title by finishing second to him at Abu Dhabi, thanks to double points.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/09/08/2014-italian-grand-prix-stats-facts/

 

[GravyMonster]

Good old Sniff...

First details emerged today of a new daytime TV talk show entitled Toto in which an avuncular Austrian host presides over domestic disputes in the manner of a Terminator-voiced Jerry Springer.

Toto aims to cover a wide range of inter-personal problems with hard-hitting headlines such as ‘My partner doesn’t obey team orders’, ‘We used to be friends but a world championship got in the way’ and ‘What part of “move over” doesn’t he understand?’

Host Toto Wolff will attempt to adjudicate and calm the often-heated debate with help from his regular sidekick, No ******** Niki, who will intervene if matters get too highly charged by stomping onto the set in a red cap and an anorak and repeatedly swearing at the participants, even though the programme transmits at 3pm and he promised not to.

Those who have seen early episodes of Toto say the eponymous host is a great choice of presenter with his pleasant but commanding manner and his distinctive catchphrase, ‘It’s time for a commercial break but don’t worry… I’ll be back’.

Toto starts this week with an episode entitled, ‘I think my partner misses his chicane’.

 

[MagicBoy]

and this...

** Image removed due to swearing **

If it's in sniff, the CT must be true.

 

[Jono8]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/09/08/2014-italian-grand-prix-stats-facts/

I have a horrible feeling that Lewis will have won like double the amount of races Rosberg has by the end of the season but Rosberg will win the last race , and because of Lewis' 3 retirements, Rosberg will win the crown.

Lewis could end up with 11 wins to Rosberg's 5 but still lose the championship. That would be hilarious. Rosberg would probably go down as one of the most undeserving champions in history.

 

[413x]

I don't think it was a team order. But could well have been

 

[CaptainRAVE]

I have a horrible feeling that Lewis will have won like double the amount of races Rosberg has by the end of the season but Rosberg will win the last race , and because of Lewis' 3 retirements, Rosberg will win the crown.

Lewis could end up with 11 wins to Rosberg's 5 but still lose the championship. That would be hilarious. Rosberg would probably go down as one of the most undeserving champions in history.

I feel the same.

 

[413x]

^I really hope something like that happens to really make double points more than hated

 

[ThestigGT999]

Mate at work is also convinced rosberg was told to give up his position like he did. As a punishment for spa

it wasn't

 

[muon]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/09/08/2014-italian-grand-prix-stats-facts/

That's only if the odds are 50:50 each race.

Hamilton is more than evens to win the final race in Abu Dhabi. That already closes the odds massively.

If you believe the odds are significantly less than evens, then this lay is amazing value.

 

[Malt_Vinegar]

Presumably Petronas, and the other sponsors each driver brings. While Mercedes own the team, it isn't funded wholly from their back pockets.

Thats my point, follow the money, any driver decision can come down to that. Less so at the top, but it's still relevant.

 

[sunama]

Some within the industry say it was a fine or wages dock, which is plausible. Would seem the most logical and commonly used method in modern sports.

If this was the case, why the secrecy?
In football, for example, if a footballer misbehaves, its fairly standard for him to be docked wages or receive a fine.
By Merc not making this public, it gives more credibility to conspiracy theories.

 

[Skeeter]

Thats my point, follow the money, any driver decision can come down to that. Less so at the top, but it's still relevant.

I wonder who the big payers are other than Petronas? And which are linked to specific drivers? Unlike some others driver/sponsor links (Grosjean and Total, Alonso and Santander, etc) I can't think of any ties to Mercedes drivers.

 

[Skeeter]

If this was the case, why the secrecy?
In football, for example, if a footballer misbehaves, its fairly standard for him to be docked wages or receive a fine.
By Merc not making this public, it gives more credibility to conspiracy theories.

Because its part of the regulations of F1 that divers contracts are confidential, which would extend to disciplinary procedures. They are keeping it a secret because they can.

 

[Malt_Vinegar]

If this was the case, why the secrecy?
In football, for example, if a footballer misbehaves, its fairly standard for him to be docked wages or receive a fine.
By Merc not making this public, it gives more credibility to conspiracy theories.

I suspect it was because any punishment was actually very lenient. I dont buy the 200k figure.
Also, good point Skeeter...

 

[CaptainRAVE]

Mate at work is also convinced rosberg was told to give up his position like he did. As a punishment for spa

I have only just seen this conspiracy. Seems unlikely Imo. He had already made a mistake there and we have certainly seen him make mistakes when under pressure before.