Italian Grand Prix 2014, Monza - Race 13/19

Malt_Vinegar said:
I suspect it was because any punishment was actually very lenient. I dont buy the 200k figure.
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Neither do I tbh, I doubt they had anything in his contract for a fine for an accident with his team mate or anyone else. I'm sure they had something for team orders and discipline but it didn't fall under either. He was just a ****. I guess we won't know for years but I'm a cynic :D
 
CaptainRAVE said:
I have only just seen this conspiracy. Seems unlikely Imo. He had already made a mistake there and we have certainly seen him make mistakes when under pressure before.
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I don't buy it either, moving aside as a sorry even if he didn't want to would paint a better picture for him than looking like he crumbled under pressure. I don't even think he crumbled, reading that information with brake bias he was pushed to the limit. Hamilton had him, either he might have ruined his rears or ran the risk of locking like he did. You would think they would have wound some off the front after the first time though?
 
What was it that I used to have to say every other day through the 2008 season on here? 'I like Lewis Hamilton fine, it's his fan-club that I can't stand' ;)
 
Talk about a crap conspiracy theory - it might hold some water if Rosberg was easily matching Hamilton and then had a 'mistake' that dropped him back but as it was he was being gained on rapidly and dropped back further afterwards and so it was an irrelevance whether he made a mistake or not really.

It'd be more plausible that it was a gambling conspiracy that he'd get overtaken on lap X or something :p
 
No doubt Sky will have a detailed analysis into if it was all a conspiracy ready for Singapore, which they will then play and re-analyse over and over during the Singapore weekend.
 
Guerrilla said:
I don't understand why everything has to be a conspiracy or some underhanded actions against one driver or another.
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24 hour rolling sports news channels and "new media". Everyone has a voice (and an opinion it seems) and shouts a lot. The traditional approach of journalists documenting the events using scurrilous concepts like sources are old hat now. It's conspiracy theories at dawn after we hear the team radio and see someone miss a breaking point a couple of times.

When I was a lad watching 80s F1 it was much simpler. Nearest we got to controversy was an article in the paper the day after, something in Autosport the following Thursday or a mention from Murray during the race highlights.
 
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Guerrilla said:
I don't understand why everything has to be a conspiracy or some underhanded actions against one driver or another.
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The need to fill web pages with news in between GP's with any tech info or news they possibly can. In the 90's all you had was the odd magazine which by the time you read it was out of date news.

Imagine how many pages on this forum Damon Hill v Schumacher would have filled up in 94 :D Now everyone is a cheat or some conspiracy.

If you can't live with cheating and/or running the rules past the limits or interpretation of the rules then F1 probably isn't for that person.

Edit, beaten to it :)
 
MagicBoy said:
24 hour rolling sports news channels and "new media". Everyone has a voice (and an opinion it seems) and shouts a lot. The traditional approach of journalists documenting the events using scurrilous concepts like sources are old hat now. It's conspiracy theories at dawn after we hear the team radio and see someone miss a breaking point a couple of times.

When I was a lad watching 80s F1 it was much simpler. Nearest we got to controversy was an article in the paper the day after, something in Autosport the following Thursday or a mention from Murray during the race highlights.
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When I were a lad
Back in the good ol days
It's not like it was
Things will never be the same
Ad nauseum

;)
 
/Rose tinted glasses removed ;)

Actually thinking about the pre-internet days, the drivers used to have their pet journalists. The politically aware drivers like Prost would leak their side, but would take a few days for the article to get picked up in the english press then covered in a paragraph. The F1 fan couldn't easily get hold of L'Équipe and translate it badly into English with a couple of clicks. You'd have to jump on an airplane/ferry and go pick one up...
 
Guerrilla said:
I don't understand why everything has to be a conspiracy or some underhanded actions against one driver or another.
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It's fanboys/fangirls. They perceive everything as an attack on their favourite driver, and invent massive conspiracies to explain why said favourite driver hasn't won every race.
 
It was obvious it was just pressure that made Nico crack. He doesn't seem to handle it very well. Since team orders are allowed there would be no reason to even need to hide it, even if it was planned.
 
Yea you guys are right, it's a shame though, I sometimes get the impression people aren't even enjoying it anymore as they are too preoccupied with dreaming this stuff up and being so hurt about some great injustice to their driver or team :p
 
MooMoo444 said:
It was obvious it was just pressure that made Nico crack. He doesn't seem to handle it very well. Since team orders are allowed there would be no reason to even need to hide it, even if it was planned.
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I don't even think he cracked. I think it was purely down to how far forward he shifted the braking to protect the rears and getting his braking wrong. He did it earlier on when not under pressure so it's probably just a mistake. I guess the next races will tell us how under pressure he is, but this was said before after Hamilton strung together 4 wins and Rosberg didn't crumble.

I don't think I will, he will just get beat fair and square.
 
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